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Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by Levitating »

drnick1 wrote: post #162

It's worth noting that the native Linux version of games is often buggy and a far worse experience than the Windows version running on Proton. Valve itself is infamous for this: the Left 4 Dead 2 native game has multiple very annoying bugs that have been known for 15 years, and that Valve still hasn't fixed. Unfortunately, there is (another) bug that prevents the Windows version running on Proton from connecting to V…

That's kind of the state of Linux in general. Binaries need to be build against the correct distribution and version. Even static binaries are a gamble.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by SchemaLoad »

rb666 wrote: post #172

If there was ever a game to play with KB+M, this is it. I don't get the need to stuff everything into a handheld. It's not Mario kart!

I just don't want to play anything with a kb and mouse anymore because it just feels like being at work when I'm sitting at a desk using the same setup I just spent all day on.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by distances »

kibwen wrote: post #54
bmurphy1976 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It played tolerably until act 3, same with my M1 MacBook Pro. Act 3 was awful on both.

I fully admit that I spent 40 delicious hours faffing about in Act 1 and then put it down out of fear that I'd never get anything else done. :P

One big upside of single player games is that they have an ending. After playing MUDs back in the day, this was a decision I've kept -- no games without an end.

To be fair, I've still spent a crazy amount of time with the Civilization games so let's say that was a partial success.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by chipsrafferty »

izacus wrote: post #165
drnick1 wrote: post #162

It's worth noting that the native Linux version of games is often buggy and a far worse experience than the Windows version running on Proton. Valve itself is infamous for this: the Left 4 Dead 2 native game has multiple very annoying bugs that have been known for 15 years, and that Valve still hasn't fixed. Unfortunately, there is (another) bug that prevents the Windows version running on Proton from connecting to V…

Is this the case for BG3?

Yes, BG3 crashed my Linux computer continuously so I could not even play it until I bought a ps5

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by a_humean »

SchemaLoad wrote: post #180
izacus wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this the case for BG3?

Often the linux builds do work when they are released, but then an OS update changes some dynamic linked library which then breaks them.

Except valve runs these games in well defined container runtimes to avoid these issues: https://gitlab.steamos.cloud/steamrt/steam-runtime-tools/-/b...

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by WithinReason »

thefz wrote: post #174

This is a gigantic effort from Larian, who among all things is still updating its software instead of resting on its own laurels. But the Deck is limited in hardware. It makes sense that it has some difficulties running gigantic games and is more aimed towards simpler games. In parallel I don't understand gamers with 15 years old hardware leaving bad reviews or whining when a game chokes above 720p with minimum setti…

BG3 runs well on the steam deck, you can even run it in 1080 at 30 FPS which is sufficient for this type of game.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by OtomotO »

mattmanser wrote: post #145
klardotsh wrote: post #115

This 12GB update managed to trigger the bizarre Steam behavior on my Linux desktop where the game patching process pegs all cores to 100% and thrashes the disk so hard the system eventually stops allowing eg. launching new processes (though the system isn't frozen stiff like running out of RAM - switching Niri desktops is fine, but launching eg. htop hangs forever, and eventually browsers stop responding). After walk…

I get that on windows when there's no enough space on my disk to install a whole other copy of the game being patched. So for BG3, if you don't have 150Gb free on your disk, steam will download it on a different disk and then transfer it over, thrashing you disk. It's bizarre, incredibly annoying, behaviour and I wish it would just ask so I'd know that was about to happen and just clean up some space. Or refuse the u…

Can you no longer disable updates on a per game basis?

You could do that in the past and I did occasionally for single player games because my internet connection wasn't the best and I did not want to waste the little time I could allocate for gaming.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by WithinReason »

izacus wrote: post #165
drnick1 wrote: post #162

It's worth noting that the native Linux version of games is often buggy and a far worse experience than the Windows version running on Proton. Valve itself is infamous for this: the Left 4 Dead 2 native game has multiple very annoying bugs that have been known for 15 years, and that Valve still hasn't fixed. Unfortunately, there is (another) bug that prevents the Windows version running on Proton from connecting to V…

Is this the case for BG3?

The SD version crashes the steam overlay. I didn't check further than the menu yet.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by koolala »

hurricanepootis wrote: post #125
appleaday1 wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

use cachyos repos, they are doing some good work if you are on one of the new amd cpus, it turned my TOASTER into a RACECAR.

I'm not going to use cachyOS repos. I am an AUR developer and my target is the Arch repos.

Would they work fine though? Is there any reason other than preference?

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by vanviegen »

Levitating wrote: post #181
drnick1 wrote: post #162

It's worth noting that the native Linux version of games is often buggy and a far worse experience than the Windows version running on Proton. Valve itself is infamous for this: the Left 4 Dead 2 native game has multiple very annoying bugs that have been known for 15 years, and that Valve still hasn't fixed. Unfortunately, there is (another) bug that prevents the Windows version running on Proton from connecting to V…

That's kind of the state of Linux in general. Binaries need to be build against the correct distribution and version. Even static binaries are a gamble.

Actual static binaries (so including libc) should run just fine anywhere, right? The Linux kernel has always had a very stable ABI.
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