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Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by cyberpunk »

colechristensen wrote: post #138
skavi wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A bit of a tangent, but I’ve seen these issues mentioned before and to me it’s always felt like more the OS’s fault than Steam’s. Like shouldn’t Steam be free to express full utilization of the available resources? And isn’t it the OS’s job to manage QoS? What am I missing here?

Systems tend to not have particularly strong guardrails against pathological access patterns which aren't trying to use 100% but a large multiple of that or are abusing some subsystem or another. The application is almost always also unresponsive. Putting up those guardrails temporarily hides big problems more often than it avoids needing to have them solved.

BEAM handles this very gracefully. Shame preemptive scheduling isn't more common..

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by drnick1 »

It's worth noting that the native Linux version of games is often buggy and a far worse experience than the Windows version running on Proton. Valve itself is infamous for this: the Left 4 Dead 2 native game has multiple very annoying bugs that have been known for 15 years, and that Valve still hasn't fixed. Unfortunately, there is (another) bug that prevents the Windows version running on Proton from connecting to VAC-secure servers or I would have ditched the Linux version long ago.

At this point game devs should just discontinue the native version if they aren't going to properly support it and just make sure the game runs flawlessly on Proton.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by arcfour »

drnick1 wrote: post #162

It's worth noting that the native Linux version of games is often buggy and a far worse experience than the Windows version running on Proton. Valve itself is infamous for this: the Left 4 Dead 2 native game has multiple very annoying bugs that have been known for 15 years, and that Valve still hasn't fixed. Unfortunately, there is (another) bug that prevents the Windows version running on Proton from connecting to V…

I've had the opposite experience, getting great performance in TF2 for example and even Rust on Linux (but with Rust you couldn't connect to EAC secured servers, so, useless outside of testing stuff on a private server).

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by marcus_holmes »

ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 wrote: post #65
jsheard wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's any consolation, the Deck LCD is discounted by 20% for the next few weeks if you need to pick up a new one.

IMO, there are better ergonomics on competitors. Over a thousand + of hours using one, a steam deck is death for your wrists in comparison. When I was playing Elden Ring on the SD for a few hundred hours, I almost thought I needed to have surgery. There are strategies to help with this, rest it on a pillow on your lap, or whatever, but you won't experience that with some of these. - https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/han…

I went the other way and got a portable monitor and a keyboard & mouse. Plug those into the SD and it's effectively a gaming desktop that fits in a backpack.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by izacus »

drnick1 wrote: post #162

It's worth noting that the native Linux version of games is often buggy and a far worse experience than the Windows version running on Proton. Valve itself is infamous for this: the Left 4 Dead 2 native game has multiple very annoying bugs that have been known for 15 years, and that Valve still hasn't fixed. Unfortunately, there is (another) bug that prevents the Windows version running on Proton from connecting to V…

Is this the case for BG3?

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by marcus_holmes »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #110

I have played a couple hours of BG3 on PlayStation (time-limited demo), and a couple hours on my Mac (purchased on Steam), and I found the controller UI to be really weird and counterintuitive compared to the mouse-driven UI on the desktop computer. Does it get easier? Does anyone have any suggestions for coming to terms with the controller weirdness? I would much rather play BG3 on my Steam Deck than on my computer.

You can just plug a keyboard and mouse into the Deck if you prefer that.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

izacus wrote: post #165
drnick1 wrote: post #162

It's worth noting that the native Linux version of games is often buggy and a far worse experience than the Windows version running on Proton. Valve itself is infamous for this: the Left 4 Dead 2 native game has multiple very annoying bugs that have been known for 15 years, and that Valve still hasn't fixed. Unfortunately, there is (another) bug that prevents the Windows version running on Proton from connecting to V…

Is this the case for BG3?

This is specifically a Steam Deck version and _not_ a general Linux version, so it's likely not applicable in this case. Think of it more like a console native port.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by aaronbrethorst »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #166
aaronbrethorst wrote: post #110

I have played a couple hours of BG3 on PlayStation (time-limited demo), and a couple hours on my Mac (purchased on Steam), and I found the controller UI to be really weird and counterintuitive compared to the mouse-driven UI on the desktop computer. Does it get easier? Does anyone have any suggestions for coming to terms with the controller weirdness? I would much rather play BG3 on my Steam Deck than on my computer.

You can just plug a keyboard and mouse into the Deck if you prefer that.

tbh, I've thought of doing this, but it seems kind of outlandish given that I primarily play my Steam Deck in bed. I'd rather just take my laptop with me.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

cortesoft wrote: post #124
nsagent wrote: post #39

Bought the game when it came out, but still haven't had the time to play. Just flew out for a three week vacation with my Steam Deck in tow. Unfortunately, I left it on the plane and I haven't heard back from lost and found yet (seems unlikely I'll get it back considering it was an international flight). Oh well.

How did you leave it on the plane!?!

Maybe they had a tight connection and were in a hurry.

Re: Baldur's Gate 3 Steam Deck – Native Version

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Post by trenchpilgrim »

marcus_holmes wrote: post #164
ZYbCRq22HbJ2y7 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IMO, there are better ergonomics on competitors. Over a thousand + of hours using one, a steam deck is death for your wrists in comparison. When I was playing Elden Ring on the SD for a few hundred hours, I almost thought I needed to have surgery. There are strategies to help with this, rest it on a pillow on your lap, or whatever, but you won't experience that with some of these. - https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/han…

I went the other way and got a portable monitor and a keyboard & mouse. Plug those into the SD and it's effectively a gaming desktop that fits in a backpack.

This type of setup is very popular at lan parties nowadays.
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