Does anyone know of any decent Notion alternative ? Something Much Simpler but also hosted online.
Notion 3.0
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Re: Notion 3.0
#62Does anyone know of any decent Notion alternative ? Something Much Simpler but also hosted online.
Anytype is a great alternative. You can use it in its simple form or design your own workflows with custom document types and properties. In Notion everything is a page but in Anytype you can define document types like Research Note, Concept, Bug Report,.. to distinguish between the various types of pages we typically use to organize information in a space. It's also fully e2e encrypted so you do not have to worry about them using your information to train models. It supports multiple devices and can sync between them p2p while maintaining a hosted server copy but does not have a webapp.
Re: Notion 3.0
#63Here is my bold prediction - Microsoft will try acquire Notion within a year. Notion seems have a lot of hype lately, and Microsoft tries to be king of the hill when it comes to productivity apps, buying tools encroaching upon their turf of Outlook and Excel (6 Wunderkinder, Yammer, Ally.io) or competing vigorously if they cant buy them (Teams). Seems like this Notion v3 could tip it over the edge into full blown pro…
> Here is my bold prediction - Microsoft will try acquire Notion within a year. Microsoft do already have their own Notion ripoff/inspired product (Loop) though. It is a bit half-assed and the development pace is glacial so perhaps a new team behind it would be something they'd be interested in.
> It is a bit half-assed
A bit? The table views don't even handle sorting from either a persistence or collaborative perspective. If you want to sort a table, do it yourself.
Re: Notion 3.0
#64Every time I use notion I can feel the PMs working there under pressure to ship some arbitrary (more often than not "AI") feature each quarter to meet some arbitrary KPI set by leadership. The base product was originally great: very smooth wysiwyg collaborative document editor with wiki-like linking. The problem is you don't need to do much on top of that. But clearly investors demand some "results" so PMs need to ke…
It's really too bad. I looked at Notion pretty extensively not long after it launched and it seemed really good compared to tools like OneNote. I wasn't at a place where I could transition to it at the time but remembered it. Several years later when I was looking for new tooling, I looked at it again and was puzzled that it seemed kinda slow and convoluted.
It's unfortunate that it's an online service. At least with tools like OneNote, now that it's been screwed up with cloud, AI, etc we can still go back to the old perpetual license, local-first versions which are still great.
Re: Notion 3.0
#65Every time I use notion I can feel the PMs working there under pressure to ship some arbitrary (more often than not "AI") feature each quarter to meet some arbitrary KPI set by leadership. The base product was originally great: very smooth wysiwyg collaborative document editor with wiki-like linking. The problem is you don't need to do much on top of that. But clearly investors demand some "results" so PMs need to ke…
Notion's USP was always simplicity. Anyone could use it, anyone could find data in it, the lack of features was a selling point. But, as you say, the attitude changed at some point from aggressive simplicity to feature bloat and now AI slop.
Re: Notion 3.0
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
The app you're looking for is Obsidian. Notion abandoned that goal years ago. Notion is making money for being a project management / team wiki. They don't care personal note taking.
But why would I want my team generating/reading AI slop in our Wiki??
You don't. Notion stakeholders do.
Re: Notion 3.0
#67Does anyone know of any decent Notion alternative ? Something Much Simpler but also hosted online.
Anytype is a great alternative. You can use it in its simple form or design your own workflows with custom document types and properties. In Notion everything is a page but in Anytype you can define document types like Research Note, Concept, Bug Report,.. to distinguish between the various types of pages we typically use to organize information in a space. It's also fully e2e encrypted so you do not have to worry ab…
Thanks I will take a look into it.
Re: Notion 3.0
#68Does anyone know of any decent Notion alternative ? Something Much Simpler but also hosted online.
Check out my Journal it! app if you want something local first, offline first and don't need collaboration features.