So much for being a safe and lucrative place for all the best minds of the world.
If you think H1B brings “the best minds of the world” I have a bridge to sell you.
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#32This isn't law so aren't we a few hours from this being put on injunction? This is just abusive to people who are doing great work and following the rules.
> This isn't law so aren't we a few hours from this being put on injunction?
That’s possible; it is also possible that it isn’t. And it is possible that even if it is, we are a few days or weeks away from an appeals court retroactively invalidating the injunction and allowing cancellations of visas based on failure to return when the injunction was in effect, or else “only” with immediate effect when the injunction is lifted.
If you are an employer who wants to keep your H-1B employees, you probably don’t want to gamble unnecessarily with this, you want the employees to act in a way which minimizes your risk.
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#33Microsoft laid off tens of thousands in the last few years. Clearly there’s no “talent shortage”.
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#34So much for being a safe and lucrative place for all the best minds of the world.
Doesn't the 100k fee ensure only the best (most worthwhile in a capitalist system) come and you don't end up with mass used to undercut local wages?
Nah, the employer will happily get rid of the US headcount and rehire the same guy in their home country or UK/Canada etc while paying a third of the salary. Zero employer is going to pay $100k.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't the 100k fee ensure only the best (most worthwhile in a capitalist system) come and you don't end up with mass used to undercut local wages?
The median salary of someone on H1B is higher than someone not on H1B. If H1B is gone we will see a decrease in wages not an increase.
Bold claim cotton
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#36I assume immigration fees are solely the purview of the executive, is that correct ?
I also would think that if this fee is applied to some countries and not others, it would pass muster since its the same as with tariffs - they don't need to be universal (or uniform).
I am not clear on the mechanics of this though. Is the fee is annual, one-time or renewal; but i suppose this will be cleared up once the EO is released if it hasn't already ?
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#37This isn't law so aren't we a few hours from this being put on injunction? This is just abusive to people who are doing great work and following the rules.
Trump has been doing many lawless things that the courts might theoretically put a stop to, but I'm not sure this is one of them. The text of 8 USC 1182(f) seems pretty straightforward:
> Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
It's a stupidly broad law, but Congress passed it, and now they're too dysfunctional to do anything about it. So I guess we're stuck with it.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't the 100k fee ensure only the best (most worthwhile in a capitalist system) come and you don't end up with mass used to undercut local wages?
The median salary of someone on H1B is higher than someone not on H1B. If H1B is gone we will see a decrease in wages not an increase.
>The median salary of someone on H1B is higher than someone not on H1B.
Not within the same job in the same location they aren't.
If you're on an H-1B and you get fired or laid off, you have 60 days to find a new job or be deported. That creates an underclass of workers who are willing to put up with much worse working conditions and work longer hours. That drives down working conditions and wages for everyone.
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#39It will never last. There is a 0% chance even one company or person will ever pay this fee. Only an act of congress can change visa requirements, and it will never come up for a full floor vote. Ever. So it will be in legal limbo, and therefore can be ignored.
Only congress can enact tariffs, but we're all paying them anyway.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
x.com isn't even accessible from Firefox. It tries to trick you into turning off enhanced tracking protection claiming it is "known to cause issues" (the "issues" presumably being with them invading your privacy).
I just accessed x.com from Firefox 143.0.1, and there was no such message or claim. It just displayed the site without any warning or ceremony. I have not visited the site with this browser before.
In my experience, it's often blocked if it's embedded in another page. You can visit x.com directly without issues.