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Microsoft memo advises H1B employees to return immediately if currently abroad

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I just accessed x.com from Firefox 143.0.1, and there was no such message or claim. It just displayed the site without any warning or ceremony. I have not visited the site with this browser before.

Re: Microsoft memo advises H1B employees to return immediately if currently abroad

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So much for being a safe and lucrative place for all the best minds of the world.

Doesn't the 100k fee ensure only the best (most worthwhile in a capitalist system) come and you don't end up with mass used to undercut local wages?

The median salary of someone on H1B is higher than someone not on H1B.

If H1B is gone we will see a decrease in wages not an increase.

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So much for being a safe and lucrative place for all the best minds of the world.

Doesn't the 100k fee ensure only the best (most worthwhile in a capitalist system) come and you don't end up with mass used to undercut local wages?

No, because after the spectacle of human cruelty from the initial implementation has faded, large companies will cozy up to the regime ($$bribes$$) and the per-employee government fees will be waved.

Furthermore as we've seen with "return to office", companies are more concerned with having control than with the bottom line. This new dynamic gives them one more thing to hold over H1Bs heads. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if the number of H1Bs increases.

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So much for being a safe and lucrative place for all the best minds of the world.

Doesn't the 100k fee ensure only the best (most worthwhile in a capitalist system) come and you don't end up with mass used to undercut local wages?

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Re: Microsoft memo advises H1B employees to return immediately if currently abroad

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It will never last. There is a 0% chance even one company or person will ever pay this fee. Only an act of congress can change visa requirements, and it will never come up for a full floor vote. Ever. So it will be in legal limbo, and therefore can be ignored.

This is why the new 100k policy allows the government the discretion to exempt their friends from the fee. Want H1Bs? Bend the knee.

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Just causing chaos and confusion for no reason. Not that it matters, but can he even do this without Congress? One of the most frustrating things is witnessing all the things this admin has done that a normal admin wouldn't be able to do within "rules and norms" like we couldn't even get student loan cancellation under Biden.

Does it matter when you have a Congress that does not care what he does?

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It's wild to watch the zeitgeist among many programmers swap in real time from being against H-1B visas to pro H-1B visas the second Trump goes after them. It is possible for a stopped clock to be right twice a day. Left and right doesn't have to disagree on literally every single thing.

If you're on an H-1B and you get fired or laid off, you have 60 days to find a new job or be deported. That creates an underclass of workers who are willing to put up with much worse working conditions and work longer hours. That drives down working conditions and wages for everyone.

A $100k per year fee doesn't fix that, but it does make them so expensive that they are really only viable for $300k+ positions.

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So much for being a safe and lucrative place for all the best minds of the world.

70% of H1Bs are from India: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/20/h-1b-visa-fee-timel.... That’s five times more than China. Are we really to believe that the supermajority of “the best minds of the world” come from a single country? Or is the marketing of H1B quite different from the product Americans are actually receiving.
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