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Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Don't write long blog posts about how your country doesn't have enough white people (and should start deporting brown people) and you won't be called a white supremist. Pretty simple.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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The American Ruby community... They tried to cancel Matz for not supporting weird DEI corporate speak in the TOS, they've been trying to cancel DHH for years for his mild conservative lean. There's also a weird contingent who keep trying to push stuff like TypeScript for Rails and typing for Ruby, at one point they wanted to fork Rails when DHH made Hotwire default (they wanted React), etc.. Outside the weird US corp…

A very biased take to be sure. Who is the "they" you are referring to? Who is "the American Ruby community"? Sounds like a thinly-veiled attack on "leftists".

I know plenty of Rubyists in Europe who these days find DHH as a person to be completely odious, not to mention a maintainer in violation of CoC.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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The American Ruby community... They tried to cancel Matz for not supporting weird DEI corporate speak in the TOS, they've been trying to cancel DHH for years for his mild conservative lean. There's also a weird contingent who keep trying to push stuff like TypeScript for Rails and typing for Ruby, at one point they wanted to fork Rails when DHH made Hotwire default (they wanted React), etc.. Outside the weird US corp…

A very biased take to be sure. Who is the "they" you are referring to? Who is "the American Ruby community"? Sounds like a thinly-veiled attack on "leftists". I know plenty of Rubyists in Europe who these days find DHH as a person to be completely odious, not to mention a maintainer in violation of CoC.

> mention a maintainer in violation of CoC.

Is he a Ruby maintainer? First I've heard of this...

> know plenty of Rubyists in Europe who these days find DHH as a person to be completely odious

Different circles I guess. I live in Europe half the year and most of the Europeans I know are way more right wing than DHH...

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Your last sentence reads like a weird swipe: as best I can tell, there's no cultural war dimension to this whatsoever?

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I’m not seeing how this is related to the subject of the thread. But also, I think DHH’s politics are manifestly controversial: downplaying that doesn’t make for a good argument.

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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Totally reads like post-facto CYA. they could have communicated this to the maintainers internally beforehand instead of blindsiding them.

The NPM breach was an email that stated the dev needed to update their MFA by the next day in order to keep their access. If you're arguing that is what ruby central should have done, that's a social engineering attack.

It’s entirely possible to distinguish between legit internal communication and a phishing email. (It gets harder and harder every day but ultimately still possible)

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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It's been a while but if memory serves me correctly the controversy at that time was actually about him unilaterally deciding that people at basecamp shouldn't be talking about politics in off-topic slack channels after people started trying to organize support for something he didn't agree with. IIRC something like 1/3 of the company quit at that time

Specifically, it was in a meeting called by Jason Fried to address people who were concerned about the ongoing existence of an internal list of "funny customer names" (which by all accounts was extremely racist), in which Ryan Singer (who had reportedly previously posted a fair bit of politically right-wing content on internal forums -- those were all deleted when the "no politics at work" policy was rolled out) repeatedly asserted that white supremacy/privilege did not exist (he then resigned).

In the aftermath, DHH dug through old chat logs to find a time in the past when one of the people complaining about the list participated in a discussion about same without complaint, and posted it in a way that was visible to everyone saying that their prior participation meant that their current complaint was invalid.

Then they rolled out the no-politics-at-work policy in this post dated April 26 2021 -- I would encourage anyone interested in the specifics to read through the various versions and edits of this post made in the week following, all without noting that it was being actively changed: https://world.hey.com/jason/changes-at-basecamp-7f32afc5

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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The American Ruby community... They tried to cancel Matz for not supporting weird DEI corporate speak in the TOS, they've been trying to cancel DHH for years for his mild conservative lean. There's also a weird contingent who keep trying to push stuff like TypeScript for Rails and typing for Ruby, at one point they wanted to fork Rails when DHH made Hotwire default (they wanted React), etc.. Outside the weird US corp…

> mild conservative lean

you're whitewashing that he's racist

Re: Ruby Central's Attack on RubyGems [pdf]

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The American Ruby community... They tried to cancel Matz for not supporting weird DEI corporate speak in the TOS, they've been trying to cancel DHH for years for his mild conservative lean. There's also a weird contingent who keep trying to push stuff like TypeScript for Rails and typing for Ruby, at one point they wanted to fork Rails when DHH made Hotwire default (they wanted React), etc.. Outside the weird US corp…

> mild conservative lean you're whitewashing that he's racist

Is he? I use Ruby and Rails, but I don't pay much attention to DHH so this is news to me. Would you mind pointing me to a source for this?
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