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Re: Nostr

#111

I like the idea of nostr but when I tried to use it it was a lot of CP which made me instantly stop using it. I guess the issue with this type of protocols is that there must be a way to prevent these very dark and illegal content. As a user I don't want to see it and the submitter should be found and jailed for distributing it. Right now, it's hard to know where it even comes from since it can come from any of the r…

Anytime I see something that is NSFW it is from the fediverse bridge.

Re: Nostr

#112
Some nostr apps to demonstrate what it's capable of: https://www.openux.app/ - Mobbin alternative https://kinostr.com/ - movies with chat room https://zap.stream/ - live streaming similar to Twitch https://dtan.xyz/ - torrents https://zapstore.dev/ - permissionless app store https://nostrnests.com/ - audio room chats https://zapmeacoffee.com/ - like buy me a coffee

Re: Nostr

#113
post #6

I like the idea of nostr but when I tried to use it it was a lot of CP which made me instantly stop using it. I guess the issue with this type of protocols is that there must be a way to prevent these very dark and illegal content. As a user I don't want to see it and the submitter should be found and jailed for distributing it. Right now, it's hard to know where it even comes from since it can come from any of the r…

That's quite the bold faced lie. I've been on nostr for years and it's been pretty friendly and never offensive.

And.. why would I lie? I used nostr for a little while in the very early days. Stopped using it then came back and had this experience on a major nostr app.

You're lying about me lying.

Re: Nostr

#114

I find open protocols the most naive endeavour in tech nowadays. The reason why social media protocols work is because the incentive is to have them siloed, controlled, and artificially convincing people through algorithmic suggestions that posting what they had for lunch is somewhat interesting. These protocols seem to think that people actually want an alternative to what Instagram, Facebook, X etc. give them. They…

People do want alternatives. Bluesky is a clear example of that. Nostr is clearly not as big, but it's a protocol.

Re: Nostr

#115

I find open protocols the most naive endeavour in tech nowadays. The reason why social media protocols work is because the incentive is to have them siloed, controlled, and artificially convincing people through algorithmic suggestions that posting what they had for lunch is somewhat interesting. These protocols seem to think that people actually want an alternative to what Instagram, Facebook, X etc. give them. They…

Do you have any suggestions for an effective way to bring them down? Perhaps building alternatives that can replace them on run in parallel is the best way to do that?

Pushing for strict regulation that forces them to have disclaimers like cigarettes, and treating them officially like the public health disaster they are. The free market, despite what the capitalistic religion leads you to think, is still not the only option.

Re: Nostr

#116

I like the idea of nostr but when I tried to use it it was a lot of CP which made me instantly stop using it. I guess the issue with this type of protocols is that there must be a way to prevent these very dark and illegal content. As a user I don't want to see it and the submitter should be found and jailed for distributing it. Right now, it's hard to know where it even comes from since it can come from any of the r…

That statement is wrong at best scenario and fake at worst. I'm a long time user of NOSTR. When you enter the network through any of the main clients you will only see curated topics (trending). The WoT assures that the best content comes up.

What exactly is wrong about my statement? Stating that my experience is wrong is stupid.

I don't know how the app I used works. I simply used the "Snort" app, connected to a few relays and did not use it for a couple of months. Then I came back and instantly saw CP freely shared. Instantly removed the app from the phone.

You can't say that it don't exist when people like me have seen it with their own set of eyes. This only makes protocols/projects like nostr set to fail, since regular people won't fucking care and just think of the nostr as something pedophiles are using, which they would not be incorrect in thinking at this moment.

I was betting on nostr in the beginning, I was running my own relay and started on a nostr client. But I gave up since clients came popping up everywhere so I didn't really have time to compete.

Re: Nostr

#117
post #33

I find open protocols the most naive endeavour in tech nowadays. The reason why social media protocols work is because the incentive is to have them siloed, controlled, and artificially convincing people through algorithmic suggestions that posting what they had for lunch is somewhat interesting. These protocols seem to think that people actually want an alternative to what Instagram, Facebook, X etc. give them. They…

I downvoted this because I don't like the way it makes me feel.

That is admitting that you downvoted against the exact rules of HN, but suit yourself :D

Re: Nostr

#118

>apolitical communication commons Some people say that labeling yourself apolitical is 1, a polticial statement 2, a privilege itself which puts you into a certain socio-political position

Software is inherently apolitical. Claiming otherwise would be like saying that a hammer or drill are political, which is absurd. Political views are placed on software depending on the author's beliefs, but it's perfectly valid to release software in the public domain without any restrictions or expectations.

Re: Nostr

#119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really think somebody would try out a new platform 2 years ago, immediately drop it due to shady stuff and remember all the non trivial steps involved in this process? > you can even install NOSTR clients directly from the App and Play store since years Since feb 2023, apparently;)

He just detailed a very weird and vague way that is unbelievable. I'm a user since January 2023, there were plenty of well-known web clients already available back at that time (e.g. coracle, amethyst, etc). You enter the clients, there is a WoT by default and shows the most proeminent conversations typically. My experience was never as the one he describes. Not even at the beginning, as you can see for many others h…

it is possible if it is a protocol not a platform. Like there can be illegal stuff over http, there can be illegal stuff over nostr and a normal person can come across it. Actually way more likely on nostr because on web we have centralized https certs and dns which is used all the time to block cp and the like

It's funny when people first say "nostr is just a protocol and completely not subject to censorship" then "there is no way a new user would encounter bad stuff on nostr". pick one?

Re: Nostr

#120
post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every time a crypto user faces criticism over their favorite technology they frame it as FUD. Quite a marvel of nature.

Not really. Cryptos are born out of criticism for current systems and they are an ever evolving technology fueled by those same critics. What doesn't make sense is when the other party starts making stories just to tarnish other competing technologies. Just now the OP was asked to provide details to replicate his findings and those were indeed very "fuzzy" to say the least.

> Cryptos are born out of criticism for current systems

Nope. Most are born out of people not understanding how existing systems work and/or looking to get rich quick.

> an ever evolving technology fueled by those same critics.

No, it's mostly a self-perpetuating self-congratulatory hype machine busily re-inventing the systems they criticise

> What doesn't make sense is when the other party starts making stories just to tarnish other competing technologies.

What does make sense is the extremely fragile ego of crypto bros who can't stand any criticism towards their scams and hype, or the mention of any possible issues.

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