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Re: Nostr

#81

>apolitical communication commons Some people say that labeling yourself apolitical is 1, a polticial statement 2, a privilege itself which puts you into a certain socio-political position

"apolitical" and the hero image is literally someone taking a swipe at "government inefficiency"

Re: Nostr

#82
post #55

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Either of them. I can't even fathom how this would be your first time experience there, other people here on this topic confirm that it doesn't happen. If you feel that is wrong, please describe the steps to replicate such situation.

Happy to help. Step 1: In 2023, notice a crypto spam post on Mastodon with a weird account name. Step 2: Look up what could have made that post, which was bridged from some other service. Step 3: Set up a key, grab a client (I used a web client that deployed to Netlify's free tier). Step 4: Follow some howtos, add relays, follow some accounts that repeat other accounts, try to figure out how discovery works. Step 5:…

Come on, so much effort writing and yet so vague.

The easiest way to try NOSTR is using any of the common web platforms like https://primal.net or https://yakihonne.com/

Heck, you can even install NOSTR clients directly from the App and Play store since years.

It is very unbelievable that you followed such a complicated process, even went to effort of deploying to a server (what?!?) and then somehow you see disturbing content without looking explicitly for it.

In case you are sincere, try it again using any of the common methods.

Re: Nostr

#83
post #29

Even if you don't use Nostr as a microblogging social network, it can provide a useful layer. For example Trystero https://oxism.com/trystero (MIT licensed) can use it to establish P2P WebRTC connections without requiring a central server.

This is very interesting. In a similar vein, I was wondering a while ago if either Nostr or ATProto could potentially work as part of a peer-to-peer instant messaging system, specifically as a way to have persistent storage and offline messaging. (But using it to establish connections is pretty clever, too.)

Re: Nostr

#84
How does it differ from the Freenet[1] project?

AFIK Freenet is the only truly resilient anonymous network that lasted +20 years without literally a single successful attack by the state actor.

It's like RAID over the internet over encryption with global replication of data. Amazing project for PHD thesis lol

1: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyphanet

Re: Nostr

#86
post #6

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That's quite the bold faced lie. I've been on nostr for years and it's been pretty friendly and never offensive.

3 people have shared this experience in the thread. Is there a fundamental reason this wouldn't be true? Isn't it a place where people can anonymously share multimedia with minimal moderation? In my experience even the most toy application exposed to the wider internet will face this issue.

What I would consider is that nostr doesn't show you content. The content you see is a function of: 1. The people you follow 2. The relays you read from 3. The clients (apps) you use

I can't think of any clients which surface weird stuff (I've never seen any on nostr). I think to reach this situation a user must follow weird accounts and thus get their content - but then I can't see that as being nostr related, since someone could do that on the internet or other networks.

Re: Nostr

#87
post #46

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Everytime NOSTR is mentioned there are people from other networks coming here to spread FUD. The best thing is asking them to provide steps for replicating their claims, which they won't since it is the not the common user experience at all.

Every time a crypto user faces criticism over their favorite technology they frame it as FUD. Quite a marvel of nature.

Not really. Cryptos are born out of criticism for current systems and they are an ever evolving technology fueled by those same critics.

What doesn't make sense is when the other party starts making stories just to tarnish other competing technologies. Just now the OP was asked to provide details to replicate his findings and those were indeed very "fuzzy" to say the least.

Re: Nostr

#88

I find open protocols the most naive endeavour in tech nowadays. The reason why social media protocols work is because the incentive is to have them siloed, controlled, and artificially convincing people through algorithmic suggestions that posting what they had for lunch is somewhat interesting. These protocols seem to think that people actually want an alternative to what Instagram, Facebook, X etc. give them. They…

> Do you wanna change social media? Try and find and effective way to bring them down.

That's basically the point of nostr.

Re: Nostr

#89

Glad to see Nostr on top of HN. It is in its infancy, but Nostr allows for "zapps" (basically sending instant micropayments via bitcoin-lightning) - so instead of using ads and dubious algorithms, you can show your appreciation to content creators by small payments. This is a model for an ad-free, decentralized social media system.

> > Glad to see Nostr on top of HN. It is in its infancy, but Nostr allows for "zapps" Nostr has existed for at least 5 years. I remember people migrate there and promote it on Twitter during pandemic. Infancy?

Not technology wise, and I was refering to zapps. I meant not many people have a connected lightning wallet to be able to send/receive zapps.

Re: Nostr

#90

>apolitical communication commons Some people say that labeling yourself apolitical is 1, a polticial statement 2, a privilege itself which puts you into a certain socio-political position

whats up with people being afraid of being political. its your duty as citizen to be political. in ancient grece apolotical people were called "idiots". literally thats the origin of the word.

I think you miss the point. On Nostr because technology is apolitical, you can be anything you want - political or not. A draw for some is exactly that; if they've been de-platformed elsewhere for political views, on nostr that can't happen.
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