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This map is not upside down
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is similar to the modern car GPS question → do you always have the little arrow pointing up in the middle and the map rotates, or is the map still and the car rotates?
Arrow points up, map is displayed with a slight perspective. If there is no perspective, then at the very least, the car is about halfway between the middle of the screen and the bottom of it. I care far more about what's in front of me than what's behind me. What I really hate is that the nav in my Tesla will typically show a perspective view while navigating, but as I approach a turn, it changes to a top-down view…
Ouch! Whatever representation you agree on, the one thing you don't do is changing everything and throwing the driver out of their context at random.
And that applies to high-level apps (like a spam phone call) stealing the screen too.
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#184To me it just looks like a world map rotated by 180 degrees. Not strange or disorienting.
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#18590% of the world's population and 68% of the land mass being in the northen hemisphere is probably a good enough reason to put north up top on a map.
I do wonder if early world explorers had been from the southern hemisphere and a tradition of "south up" was already established, if it would still look better to us to have more land on top.
I think the convention was born by magnetic north. I suppose it might also point to non magnetic south. Maybe a combination of the explorers and compass convention.
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#186The moralizing that always accompanies (not) upside down maps is so tedious. It's a genuinely interesting example of how something can look so wrong and yet not be wrong at all. To try to extend that "wrong" feeling to some kind of moral failure on the viewers part is just silly. You (or society) are not a bad or prejudiced person for thinking this way, it's just that nearly all maps produced have chosen a different…
As someone from the southern hemisphere, the only thing more patronizing and infuriating than this is the insistence from the same moralizing group that my country isn’t part of “The West”, despite it being physically and culturally there.
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#187Is this map projection making Russia look small an artifact of the projection (i.e. we expand the land in the north more than the south in this projection in general) or an optical illusion? Russia looks small flipped on its head and I can't quite figure out why.
It does seem to look visually less squished if I flip the image over, so beyond the projection, I would also say yes to optical illusion to some extent: https://i.imgur.com/JPIuvYl.jpeg
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#189Also, I was quite old by the time I learned that "Oriental" literally just means "direction of the sunrise". So to "orient" would specifically mean looking East. Before compasses all indicated North, "the North" was associated with cold and evil, the south was associated with warmth and prosperity, and the East was considered neutral when establishing bearings.
> "the North" was associated with cold and evil, the south was associated with warmth and prosperity
In Europe. And probably even only far from the Mediterranean.
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#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
I highly recommend the book "Metaphors We Live By", which discusses how metaphors are not arbitrary, but are part of schemas. For instance, there are whole classes of orientational metaphors that fall into the schemas: "more is up, less is down", "good is up, bad is down", "virtue is up, depravity is down", "rational is up, emotional is down", "having control is up, being subject to control is down", and so on. (Yes,…
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I spent a solid ten minutes researching this and couldn't find any suggestion that there's any problem with the title.
Could you explain how it's ungrammatical?