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Re: This map is not upside down

#142

In Japan, physical maps like in parks and city information booths are oriented to be aligned with the actual geography. Meaning, north on the map points to actual north. Made me think of how much more accurate the end to end process of putting up that map has to be vs. maps oriented by "north is up". Just imagine the map needs to be moved by 10m and rotated around for some last minute restructuring of the park before…

This is similar to the modern car GPS question → do you always have the little arrow pointing up in the middle and the map rotates, or is the map still and the car rotates?

True! When I started driving, I was using the "north is always up" setting as it helped me get a better understanding of where I was in the city. Somehow this was more fun.

At some point I switched to the more common setting (I assume) of having the map rotate.

Re: This map is not upside down

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post #54

> Psychologically, we tend to view things nearer the top as ‘good’ and those lower as ‘bad.’ This, of course, is the point of the article. It was so predictable that it made me wonder: who is telling me that top is good and lower is bad? The articles themselves.

At one point a character in Eco's Foucault's Pendulum says "archetypes don't exist, the body exists" and then gives some sexual and reproductive examples, followed by > And high is better than low, because if you have your head down, the blood goes to your brain, because feet stink and hair doesn’t stink as much, because it’s better to climb a tree and pick fruit than end up underground, food for worms, and because y…

We print black on white. Does that mean that words are bad and only defile the blank sheet?

Re: This map is not upside down

#145
Tbh east on top would in some ways be more interesting because map projections usually are symmetrical across the equator but are not rotationally symmetrical. So east up map would have potentially different shapes of land masses, while south up map has exact same shapes as north up.

Re: This map is not upside down

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post #110

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First time seeing this and it feels so offensive. I'm somewhat okay with the term developed and developing countries, though not too much [1]. But this just feels discriminatory. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Factfulness

What are "developing" countries developing into? Nice white western ones like the global north? Nope. That one is the worst of the choices.

They are "developing" into industrialized countries.

Re: This map is not upside down

#147
post #144
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At one point a character in Eco's Foucault's Pendulum says "archetypes don't exist, the body exists" and then gives some sexual and reproductive examples, followed by > And high is better than low, because if you have your head down, the blood goes to your brain, because feet stink and hair doesn’t stink as much, because it’s better to climb a tree and pick fruit than end up underground, food for worms, and because y…

We print black on white. Does that mean that words are bad and only defile the blank sheet?

What does the transition from white chalk on blackboard to black markers on whiteboard mean?

Re: This map is not upside down

#148

Yeah, sure, I've heard that before... master/slave, black/white lists... and now, north/south. I wonder what they'll come up with now to explain reading from left to right (don't even think about the majority of right-handed writers, that would ruin the fun). ".snoitnevnoc fo yticilpmis eht dnihneb noitnetni neddih a eb ot dnuob si erehT"

I mean several languages are right to left? I'd be interested to see if handedness in those countries is different.

> I mean several languages are right to left?

So?

Anyway, handedness bias is a humanity thing.

You're not interested to see if they don't care about majority, are you? But let's be honest: it's just other cultures to me. I don't even think WE often care about majority either.

Re: This map is not upside down

#149
post #72

90% of the world's population and 68% of the land mass being in the northen hemisphere is probably a good enough reason to put north up top on a map.

Split it at the equator, make them north south edges and make everyone angry.

It hurts my head to even try to visualize this

Re: This map is not upside down

#150

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This is similar to the modern car GPS question → do you always have the little arrow pointing up in the middle and the map rotates, or is the map still and the car rotates?

True! When I started driving, I was using the "north is always up" setting as it helped me get a better understanding of where I was in the city. Somehow this was more fun. At some point I switched to the more common setting (I assume) of having the map rotate.

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