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Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

eptcyka wrote: post #267
Hobadee wrote: post #236

This isn't just you. We have quite a few clients in this same boat. (One client is migrating to Teams in a couple of weeks for this exact reason.) We have quite a few RIA clients, and because of archiving requirements, this is happening to every single one of them. These aren't poor companies, but Slack is making it really hard to justify the expense anymore. We will have quite a few companies dump them when renewal…

Imagine how hard must one fuck up to make Teams become the viable alternative.

Did they fuck up? I think they either want a reasonable revenue stream from users or they don’t want the overhead of maintaining those users.

From a Slack perspective, it seems reasonable.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by cskartikey »

commandersaki wrote: post #234
chrisasquith wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi! Ty! And Hack club is totally free to teens and we provide travel stipends, hardware, electronics and more. (We don’t charge 7 percent to clubs to sell things :)) hack club run a fiscal sponsorship and adult-orgs using it pay us 7percent- which we use to make more things free to teens. - hack club cofounder here

I don't know if it's still the case, but a young developer in Bangladesh has been making pretty cool neovim plugins on a mobile phone. Hack club is (or was?) collecting donations to get him a macbook laptop to hopefully reduce the pain points: https://hcb.hackclub.com/oxy2dev-laptop/transactions

Yep! They got a Macbook Pro!

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by SXX »

beezlewax wrote: post #242
Hobadee wrote: post #236

This isn't just you. We have quite a few clients in this same boat. (One client is migrating to Teams in a couple of weeks for this exact reason.) We have quite a few RIA clients, and because of archiving requirements, this is happening to every single one of them. These aren't poor companies, but Slack is making it really hard to justify the expense anymore. We will have quite a few companies dump them when renewal…

Because microsoft would never do such a thing

I mean we all know Microsoft and their reputation, but they not exactly known for rising price x40 for non-profits.

Usually Microsoft was opposite: giving a lot of software for education for cheap or free to vendor lock-in people into their stack.

NOT advocating for using Teams because God please no, but Microsoft reliability us much better than Salesforce.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by nodar86 »

Hey! I have an open-source project for browsing an exported slack archive, it may be useful to you so you can see and search the history: https://github.com/pkarolyi/slack-archive-browser

I haven’t maintained it in a while since it works for us, but PRs are welcome :)

A good first one would be adding non-slack authentication as currently it only supports Slack openid for logging in, but it uses next-auth and should be simple to extend

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by jillesvangurp »

We're on the freemium plan with them. I don't see a big need to pay Slack. It's a low value commodity. Most of that stuff is highly transient anyway and even for their recent history their search is pretty limited. I always struggle to find stuff back in slack. Our company policy is to stick anything important in a place where we won't lose it (Google drive mainly).

And since we actually pay for Google Workspaces, we could switch to their chat solution. I haven't actually bothered even trying that so far. Because they'll probably cancel it in a few years. And there are a gazillion alternatives. I've used everything from news groups, irc, icq, hip chat, discord, etc. in the past quarter century or so. And that's just for work related communication. The main reason for me to use Slack is that it's there and cheap and it kind of works. I have no big pressing need to switch. Or to pay anyone for this stuff.

Slack was the cute sexy new thing about ten years ago. Then they got acquired by Salesforce and now it's just yet another corporate thing; so enshittification is a given. But they might want to remember that the only reason they got this big is through their generous freemium offering. Cut that off and the rest just bleeds out as well. Along with all the revenue. They wouldn't be the first chat solution that joins the ranks of the once big and long forgotten.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by buovjaga »

DarkmSparks wrote: post #135

The fact they think they can charge this much tells me that there is a lot of room for competition in the webguis for irc space. Anyone fancy building on for self hosting? Im booked up solid till February but this would make a nice Christmas project.

New projects in that genre keep popping up, for example eIRC: An Enterprise Chat System Based on IRC https://github.com/jesse-greathouse/eIRC

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by reeredfdfdf »

bfelbo wrote: post #273
v3ss0n wrote: post #262

Zulip is much better alternative due it it's threaded nature and it have nice slack import tool. Please give a try.

Would love to use Zulip, but the bad mobile app reviews are scaring me off.

At my work we use Zulip, and I haven't really found many people complaining about it. At least on iOS works just fine for me.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Post by self_awareness »

ugh123 wrote: post #241
chrisasquith wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi! Ty! And Hack club is totally free to teens and we provide travel stipends, hardware, electronics and more. (We don’t charge 7 percent to clubs to sell things :)) hack club run a fiscal sponsorship and adult-orgs using it pay us 7percent- which we use to make more things free to teens. - hack club cofounder here

Have you thought about moving to Discord? I'm sure it won't be free for your org, but could be friendlier terms.

This is hilarious. People suggesting to move to Discord, because Slack walled garden has started to profit from the vendor lock-in they've created.

This shows that many people still have no idea what's going on. That you shouldn't use Slack OR Discord.

It's really incredible, although expected.

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