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Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

#11

First time hearing about Mattermost. Good thing I found this article

We replaced Slack with Mattermost for one of the teams - and guess what we don't miss Slack there. Threads, push notifications everything works fine and you get more features at least compared to the free version of Slack

So is the winning strategy here to pick anything but the top dogs in the game and hope they never make the big leagues and start behaving like shit? Mattermost just seems like another risky dependency

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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Slack is transitioning to the salesforce per user pricing for all accounts and deliberately crippling the free product to force migration.

Hasn’t Slack had per user pricing for a very long time?

And wasn’t the free version made kind of unusable through very limited retention like a decade ago?

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

#15
I can sympathize, but this was always the end deal for cloud SaaS apps. Give em a taste, get em hooked, get years of institutional knowledge and process embedded in the app, refuse to let them export it, and crank the price up.

It's not only guys named Larry who are lawnmowers. Don't stick your hand in. *Own* your shit. Be suspicious of anyone who tries to convince you not to. If it's "easy" it might come back to bite you.

Even if some self-hostable software stack does a rug pull and changes the license, you just don't have to update. You can go log into the database and export to whatever format you want.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

#18

I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.

I’m sure smarter people have better terms for this but it feels like a sort of late stage capitalism thing where there’s really no room for anyone who first and foremost wants to do good things, at scale. I’m curious now, what’s the largest company that’s clearly passing up additional revenue because they prefer to say, “nah we’re good. The current business model makes us enough money.”

It's pretty much just rent extraction, or even feudalism, which you could argue is the end result of unchecked capitalism.

Re: Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year

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I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.

I’m sure smarter people have better terms for this but it feels like a sort of late stage capitalism thing where there’s really no room for anyone who first and foremost wants to do good things, at scale. I’m curious now, what’s the largest company that’s clearly passing up additional revenue because they prefer to say, “nah we’re good. The current business model makes us enough money.”

I feel like any time a company goes public they lose the ability to pass up on revenue. The C-suite report to the board, who have a fiduciary duty to maximize profits.

Same with private VC/PE held companies. The board will replace the C-Suite if they aren't maximizing value.

You'd need to find a company which is huge but privately held by a group of people with only good intentions.

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