First time hearing about Mattermost. Good thing I found this article
We replaced Slack with Mattermost for one of the teams - and guess what we don't miss Slack there. Threads, push notifications everything works fine and you get more features at least compared to the free version of Slack
Slack has raised our charges by $195k per year
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#13Slack is transitioning to the salesforce per user pricing for all accounts and deliberately crippling the free product to force migration.
And wasn’t the free version made kind of unusable through very limited retention like a decade ago?
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#14We use Zulip (https://zulip.org/) for our corporate chat, and we've never looked back. It's been good, and it's fully open source. We self-host, but paid hosting is easy to get too if you want.
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#15It's not only guys named Larry who are lawnmowers. Don't stick your hand in. *Own* your shit. Be suspicious of anyone who tries to convince you not to. If it's "easy" it might come back to bite you.
Even if some self-hostable software stack does a rug pull and changes the license, you just don't have to update. You can go log into the database and export to whatever format you want.
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#17Did you have a special deal with Slack? I don't understand how they can just increase the price with a few days notice?
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#18I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.
I’m sure smarter people have better terms for this but it feels like a sort of late stage capitalism thing where there’s really no room for anyone who first and foremost wants to do good things, at scale. I’m curious now, what’s the largest company that’s clearly passing up additional revenue because they prefer to say, “nah we’re good. The current business model makes us enough money.”
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#19First time hearing about Mattermost. Good thing I found this article
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#20I love that large companies keep showing us more and more often why you really, really shouldn't rely on them.
I’m sure smarter people have better terms for this but it feels like a sort of late stage capitalism thing where there’s really no room for anyone who first and foremost wants to do good things, at scale. I’m curious now, what’s the largest company that’s clearly passing up additional revenue because they prefer to say, “nah we’re good. The current business model makes us enough money.”
Same with private VC/PE held companies. The board will replace the C-Suite if they aren't maximizing value.
You'd need to find a company which is huge but privately held by a group of people with only good intentions.