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U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by raydev »

morkalork wrote: post #307
doctoboggan wrote: post #298

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> 1. New, US-specific TikTok App, separate from the main TikTok app in content and users. IMO this significantly impacts the value I would get from TikTok, as much of the content I consume on the app is from outside the US I guess they are hoping the US market will be big enough so self sustain and even entice some foreigners to join the US only app?

Wait, so for everyone else this means American content will be off the main app and be contained? If this stems the tide of MAGA brain rot seeping north into Canada it's an absolute win.

MAGA content is easily avoidable, because the algo already prioritizes what you engage with. For me in Canada, there's just a lot of funny/insightful US-based content I do watch.

TikTok got significantly less interesting when the US blocked themselves earlier this year, if that happens permanently it'll probably hurt TikTok worldwide.

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Post by downrightmike »

gpt5 wrote: post #205

Key details: 1. New, US-specific TikTok App, separate from the main TikTok app in content and users. 2. 80% owned by a U.S. investor consortium led by Oracle, Silver Lake, and Andreessen Horowitz, 20% by Bytedance. 3. Board will include one U.S. government–appointed director. 4. All U.S. user data would sit on Oracle infrastructure in the US. 5. Algorithm will be initially licensed, but has to be reengineered to comp…

10% of intel 80% of TikTok ??% Meta ??% Google ??% Amazon ??% S&P500

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

ch4s3 wrote: post #227
bananalychee wrote: post #208

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You said conspiracies always land on one place, which clearly implied blaming "the jews". There is no point in debating people like you but I will reiterate a point you should care deeply about. Israel, right or wrong, is losing massive support among the younger generations world wide. And pretending they aren't massacring civilians and intentionally starving them only weakens Israel in the long run. So keep it up, you are actively eroding future support.

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Post by stouset »

bananalychee wrote: post #219
fluidcruft wrote: post #203

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Recently, I've been shocked to witness how normalized Jew hatred (which I distinguish from criticism of Israel) has become within Gen Z, even among people who exhibit progressive views and are otherwise vocally critical of racial/ethnic discrimination. I doubt it will stop with the genocide/war.

On the flip side, I see very little actual hatred of Jews, either cultural or religious, but I do see a lot of people claiming that any kind of opposition to the IDF flattening Gaza is equivalent to Jew hatred.

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Post by hopelite »

elzbardico wrote: post #271
tracerbulletx wrote: post #267

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Don't worry. His son is also odds on favorite to own half of the US broadcast, film, and streaming media via Paramount, CBS and are in talks to purchase Warner Brothers, HBO, Discovery, and all their other cable brands. Oh wait, maybe we should worry about that a little.

The delightful world of democracy and free enterprise!

You are free to choose among the things the options the cabal provides you. What are you complaining about?

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Post by downrightmike »

doctoboggan wrote: post #325
roughly wrote: post #314

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> 5. Algorithm will be initially licensed, but has to be reengineered to comply with the law. The government board director is one thing, but what exactly does this mean?

"Hey Claude, please re-write this algorithm"

I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.

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Post by amatecha »

estearum wrote: post #326
amatecha wrote: post #263

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So, same old, basically. When I was a kid it was the same thing, kids spending all evening watching sitcoms and otherwise-trash TV. I was online on my computer learning programming, audio production, trying different operating systems, playing every game I could get my hands on, as well as chatting with people all over the world & making friends who I'm still friends with today, ingesting media from all over the worl…

"Someone said something else was bad and it wasn't, so therefore anything else that someone says is bad is also not bad" is an obviously incoherent argument once you strip it down to its basics.

Yeah no I get what you mean, but my argument is like, you should try to be resilient against the arbitrary whims of the powers that be regardless of what their flavour of the week is. Asymmetric power/influence is a dynamic that will always exist in society, especially exacerbated by the scale and reach we see today.

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Post by roughly »

cvoss wrote: post #332
roughly wrote: post #314

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> 5. Algorithm will be initially licensed, but has to be reengineered to comply with the law. The government board director is one thing, but what exactly does this mean?

The law simply requires that the content recommendation algorithm not be shared between the two apps. [0] Thus, it must be rebuilt by the new team, and not maintained or controlled by the old team. The licensing approach is a temporary solution to keep the app working from day 1. One of ByteDance's complaints during the lawsuit earlier this year was that is was going to be technically infeasible for engineers to rebu…

Gotcha, ok - that’s less alarming.
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