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U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Post by Workaccount2 »

duxup wrote: post #59

I'm curious how bad the misinformation type stuff will be. It's bad everywhere, but I found TikTok to be the absolute worst. Not even just fake news political stuff where I can guess the motivation (still bad), but just basic everyday tips and tricks, local users describing news events. I've found it to be so much worse on tiktok. Other platforms there seems to be "more" intent by creators to provide somewhat consist…

I don't know about tik-tok, but Instagram is totally unhinged. Boobs, butts, gambling, brain rot, watchbait/ragebait, all that stuff.

YouTube shorts gets all the hate, but I find the content to consistently be the most sophisticated? PG rated? educational?

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Post by ferguess_k »

estearum wrote: post #163
ferguess_k wrote: post #154

Just don't use it. Regardless of who is in control, Tiktok is basically an app designed by some of the smartest minds in the world to get you addicted. I already observed the brainrot similar apps caused to my parents, and for hell I won't allow my kid to touch it whenever I have control. Whether you "learned" anything from it is irrelevant too -- you can always learn better with books, classes, and heck even YouTube…

Obviously someone not using it themselves mitigates only a fraction of the harm of these things. If everyone around your kids is brainrotted or subject to destructive propaganda, your kids suffer too.

Yeah, you are 100% correct. I need to find him a few good hobbies before I release him to the wolf packs.

I don't know. I myself never sticked to a hobby even after trying a lot of them. Genetically speaking he is a lot like me -- lack of discipline, difficult to cool down, impatient, throw tantrums frequently, etc. The list is pretty long :/ Not many good things from this genetic pool TBH.

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Post by decimalenough »

elzbardico wrote: post #320
geodel wrote: post #290

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. And since you are so nice to Kim he can get a job as remote IT worker.

Oh my. Forgot that nowadays people need to be explicitly warned about sarcasm or irony as they tend to interpret everything literally

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_remote_worker_sch...

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Post by tclancy »

elzbardico wrote: post #264
fooqux wrote: post #261

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It's rather amazing. They found one of the few organizations I trust less than the Chinese government to run this.

Compared to Larry Ellison, Kim Jong-un strikes me as a supreme humanist, a beacon of goodness and generosity.

Probably a better neighbor too.

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Post by doctoboggan »

roughly wrote: post #314
gpt5 wrote: post #205

Key details: 1. New, US-specific TikTok App, separate from the main TikTok app in content and users. 2. 80% owned by a U.S. investor consortium led by Oracle, Silver Lake, and Andreessen Horowitz, 20% by Bytedance. 3. Board will include one U.S. government–appointed director. 4. All U.S. user data would sit on Oracle infrastructure in the US. 5. Algorithm will be initially licensed, but has to be reengineered to comp…

> 5. Algorithm will be initially licensed, but has to be reengineered to comply with the law. The government board director is one thing, but what exactly does this mean?

"Hey Claude, please re-write this algorithm"

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Post by estearum »

amatecha wrote: post #263
estearum wrote: post #163

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Obviously someone not using it themselves mitigates only a fraction of the harm of these things. If everyone around your kids is brainrotted or subject to destructive propaganda, your kids suffer too.

So, same old, basically. When I was a kid it was the same thing, kids spending all evening watching sitcoms and otherwise-trash TV. I was online on my computer learning programming, audio production, trying different operating systems, playing every game I could get my hands on, as well as chatting with people all over the world & making friends who I'm still friends with today, ingesting media from all over the worl…

"Someone said something else was bad and it wasn't, so therefore anything else that someone says is bad is also not bad" is an obviously incoherent argument once you strip it down to its basics.

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Post by estearum »

rtkwe wrote: post #246
estearum wrote: post #91

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Eh, quality of life has gone to the moon in China in living memory. Not nearly as much a positive delta here in the US.

I think you can it's just shifted by several decades because China took a long dark detour through the Cultural Revolution. QoL exploded in the US in the Post War period, partially imo because we were the only industrialized economy that didn't have significant homeland attacks during WW2 so the US got a straight shot to the top of the heap. China got a similar QoL lift through a similar path, mass manufacturing (thi…

Sure, but what's relevant is what sort of political and cultural pressures we're all experiencing now. Maybe China is just a few years behind on the same crunch trajectory we're on, maybe not, but that doesn't matter much to what's going on today.

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Post by cm2187 »

fooqux wrote: post #261
elzbardico wrote: post #255

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It's rather amazing. They found one of the few organizations I trust less than the Chinese government to run this.

I don't think the average braindead tiktok user who watches choreographies all day long knows / cares / can even spell Oracle.

I know what you will tell me: "but these people vote"... Hum, yes.

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