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U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of global users ended up using the US app instead of TikTok.

Why would anyone want to use OracleTok?

TikTok is banned in India. OracleTok might not be.. So that's a lot of potential users.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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post #97

So Larry Ellison just took over Paramount group which is now looking to bid for Warner Brothers and CNN. And now Ellison is going to take over TikTok. Paramount(being run by Larry Ellison's son) is looking to install the pro-israel-propagandist who has variously masqueraded as a liberal, a conservative and anti-woke free-speech champion, Bari Weiss[1] as CBS's editor-in-chief or co-president[2]. It also bears mention…

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Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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TikTok dealt a serious blow to the Western consensus manufacturing apparatus. We saw that with Gaza especially. This deal is a step towards taking back control.

Maybe these crypto-zealots who scream about decentralization will actually try and build a thriving decentralized media instead of pumping and dumping shitcoins?

The problem is that it's hard to make these things popular.

There are several ActivityPub services that are pretty good and even have decent UXes, but they aren't super active.

A major issue is it's confusing and the funds are limited.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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So Larry Ellison just took over Paramount group which is now looking to bid for Warner Brothers and CNN. And now Ellison is going to take over TikTok. Paramount(being run by Larry Ellison's son) is looking to install the pro-israel-propagandist who has variously masqueraded as a liberal, a conservative and anti-woke free-speech champion, Bari Weiss[1] as CBS's editor-in-chief or co-president[2]. It also bears mention…

Nothing hostile about it. This is what the American people voted for.

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I don't believe for a second that you're being downvoted by someone with multiple accounts. You're being downvoted because you tried to frame a lukewarm observation (that brought receipts!) as some insane conspiratorial hot take in a really transparent manner, while simultaneously misrepresenting it (zionists vs jews) and ridiculing it (flat earth comparison).

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Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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> We are doing state capitalism without China’s “serve the people” bit. Hm, maybe there’s a name for that type of government, idk. Except China doesn't actually serve its people. Things are way more cut-throat there, with much less safety net. The Chinese government sees workers as grist for the mill, not something to be cared for.

> The Chinese government sees workers as grist for the mill, not something to be cared for. I think this is universal, but perhaps China indeed may be worse.

There is a significant difference in a population of 70 million educated workers who need to be maintained for high performance and 400 million low skill workers who are highly replaceable.

I am trying to make no judgement here, just explaining then 'motivational environment'

This math of course is in flux to a degree we haven't seen in maybe 1000+ years though right now.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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post #119

So Larry Ellison just took over Paramount group which is now looking to bid for Warner Brothers and CNN. And now Ellison is going to take over TikTok. Paramount(being run by Larry Ellison's son) is looking to install the pro-israel-propagandist who has variously masqueraded as a liberal, a conservative and anti-woke free-speech champion, Bari Weiss[1] as CBS's editor-in-chief or co-president[2]. It also bears mention…

Nothing hostile about it. This is what the American people voted for.

In 2020, 22.4% of the US population voted for Trump. In 2024, 22.7% of the population voted for Trump. I hate how people draw drastic conclusions regarding what the American people want based off the shift of less than half a percentage point of the population.

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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So Larry Ellison just took over Paramount group which is now looking to bid for Warner Brothers and CNN. And now Ellison is going to take over TikTok. Paramount(being run by Larry Ellison's son) is looking to install the pro-israel-propagandist who has variously masqueraded as a liberal, a conservative and anti-woke free-speech champion, Bari Weiss[1] as CBS's editor-in-chief or co-president[2]. It also bears mention…

This is just crazy. No single person should have this amount of power, in particular if they have the moral integrity of Larry Ellison...

>moral integrity of Larry Ellison...

Don't anthropomorphize Larry Ellison

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15886728

Re: U.S. investors, Trump close in on TikTok deal with China

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> We are doing state capitalism without China’s “serve the people” bit. Hm, maybe there’s a name for that type of government, idk. Except China doesn't actually serve its people. Things are way more cut-throat there, with much less safety net. The Chinese government sees workers as grist for the mill, not something to be cared for.

Eh, quality of life has gone to the moon in China in living memory. Not nearly as much a positive delta here in the US.

> Eh, quality of life has gone to the moon in China in living memory. Not nearly as much a positive delta here in the US.

The Chinese rural population still isn't eligible for local equivalent of social security in their old age (that's only for city folks), and IIRC there was a huge unwillingness to provide financial assistance to individuals during COVID.

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