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Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Could be a clever nom de plume?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. 'Al' is not an uncommon name.

We’re always talking about AI Capex, but go back a hundred or so years and it was Al Capone.

Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Hahah, great point. As a music nut I knew what it was talking about, but to people who don't it might seem alarming.

I unironically thought this was going to be about a recent terrorist attack on a concert.

Ya same, I thought they had footage during an attack, and now had to do facial recognition to determine the perpetrators or victims

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Think about the most notorious authoritarian regimes. Third Reich, GDR , USSR, Mao's China. They had relatively weak surveillance capacity. Secret police had to personally spy on the target and manually install bugs/taps. Technology was primitive and error prone. Most casual conversations were less vulnerable to spying. Rural people were relatively safe. Private conversations could be easily held in secret (e.g. walk outside, play a record).

Also consider resourcing, the manpower, money, tools, electricity devoted to surveillance back then compared to today

How about today? Where could you venture in secret without being tracked? How could you hold a private conversation? Your face & license plates are constantly tracked, along with your personal phone, laptop , watch, fitness tracker, Tire Pressure Management Systems, etc.

If you had to assign a logarithmic authoritarian intensity scale to those regimes, and to today's regimes, how would you rank them? Consider the spying capacity, resources, recording capacity, analytic capacity.

I would put today's regimes many orders of magnitude more severe.

what do you think?

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The (presumably fully human) author is listed in the byline at the top of the article. What is sadly rather ironic is the author's first name, "Al" looks like AI when stylised in the article's font.

Could be a clever nom de plume?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/al-landes-50018016b/

Writing for the last 14 years and for GadgetReview since 2017; Managing Editor since 2018.

Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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A few sentences in, I was thinking that the article felt AI-generated, so I scrolled to the bottom of the page. There's no author listed, but there is this disclaimer: "AI assists in refining our editorial process, ensuring that every article is engaging, clear and succinct." One thing I hope we'll see in the future on these types of articles is the ability to view the original prompt. If your goal is to be succinct,…

> One thing I hope we'll see in the future on these types of articles is the ability to view the original prompt. Would it matter if the same prompt gives different output? You couldn't verify it.

The point is to not need to look at the output if the prompt itself has all of the info that someone cares about

Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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post #65

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Could be a clever nom de plume?

https://www.linkedin.com/in/al-landes-50018016b/ Writing for the last 14 years and for GadgetReview since 2017; Managing Editor since 2018.

Dang. That’s an earlier rollout than any other agent I’m aware of! ;D

Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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The fact that people were uncomfortable with simply having their pictures taken and shown without their knowledge gives lie to the idea that "You're in a public place—of course you have no right to privacy." It's great to be given the chance to face your principles.

Public photography is not a crime, nor should it be. However, that doesn't mean your likeness can be used for just any purpose.

> Public photography is not a crime, nor should it be.

IDK about shouldn't. Public photography not being a crime comes from a time where one could still be generally expected to remain anonymous despite being photographed. Just like how you can be seen by strangers in the street while walking and still remain anonymous. Yet stalking is a crime, and facial recognition seems to be the digital equivalent. Facial recognition is something that can be done at any point by someone with your picture in their hand.

Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Feels like this title could benefit from clarification that 'Massive Attack' refers to the band and not the concept of a large scale attack; perhaps "Band 'Massive Attack' Turns Concert into Facial Recognition Surveillance Experiment"

The casing sort-of disambiguates it.
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