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Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Post by llm_nerd »

Are the faces even of audience members? Seems...gimmicky. The faces don't seem to react at all, and all are making almost AI movements. Many look artificial.

And it isn't identifying the people or anything. It's putting some meaningless adjective like "Resourceful" below them.

Have seen this headline a few times and thought it was actually novel and demonstrative of some face database or something, but instead it's just a surveillance gimmick. Put a bunch of generative AI face loops with bounding boxes and adjectives.

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Post by Waterluvian »

maplethorpe wrote: post #6

A few sentences in, I was thinking that the article felt AI-generated, so I scrolled to the bottom of the page. There's no author listed, but there is this disclaimer: "AI assists in refining our editorial process, ensuring that every article is engaging, clear and succinct." One thing I hope we'll see in the future on these types of articles is the ability to view the original prompt. If your goal is to be succinct,…

> view the original prompt

I think this assumes a very limited scope of how AI gets used for these. As if the article is a one and done output from a single prompt. I can imagine many iterative prompts combined with some copying and pasting to get an hour’s worth of copy in five minutes.

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Post by autoexec »

thw_9a83c wrote: post #11

> The band deployed live facial recognition technology that captured and analyzed attendees during their recent performance. I think more drama has been created around this than is necessary. Based on the video, the real-time projected visitor's faces were not analyzed. They were simply shown with a random description flag attached, such as "energetic," "compassionate," "inspiring," "fitness influencer," or "cloud wa…

> It seems to be an artistic provocation showing what a real people analysis could look like.

I that case they should have used descriptions like "gay", "muslim", "poor", "bipolar", "twice divorced", "low quality hire", "easy to scam", "both parents dead", "rude to staff", "convicted felon", "not sexually active", "takes Metformin", "spends > $60 on alcohol a month", "dishonest", etc.

None of the people who actually take advantage of you or manipulate you using surveillance capitalism cares if you're a "cloud watcher" or "inspiring"

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Post by hooskerdu »

sarreph wrote: post #21
maplethorpe wrote: post #6

A few sentences in, I was thinking that the article felt AI-generated, so I scrolled to the bottom of the page. There's no author listed, but there is this disclaimer: "AI assists in refining our editorial process, ensuring that every article is engaging, clear and succinct." One thing I hope we'll see in the future on these types of articles is the ability to view the original prompt. If your goal is to be succinct,…

The (presumably fully human) author is listed in the byline at the top of the article. What is sadly rather ironic is the author's first name, "Al" looks like AI when stylised in the article's font.

Could be a clever nom de plume?

Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Post by embedded_hiker »

thw_9a83c wrote: post #11

> The band deployed live facial recognition technology that captured and analyzed attendees during their recent performance. I think more drama has been created around this than is necessary. Based on the video, the real-time projected visitor's faces were not analyzed. They were simply shown with a random description flag attached, such as "energetic," "compassionate," "inspiring," "fitness influencer," or "cloud wa…

Saturday Night Live used to do this with their studio audience in the 1970s.The captions were silly but could have been considered insulting sometimes.

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Post by POiNTx »

0xbadcafebee wrote: post #40

I tried to create an art piece sorta like this once. Video cameras in two separate places in the world, hooked up to a monitor. Made to look like a mirror, only you realize you're looking into a completely different place. So if you and someone else walk up to it, it's like you in another dimension. I was told I couldn't bring it to a regional burning man event because "it violates consent" (because they didn't conse…

That's a really cool concept, I'd love to see more art like this that uses modern technology. Do you have a demo available somewhere to see what the effect would look like? This is one of those things where you should just do it without asking for permission. The portals[0] art installation in some cities doesn't ask for consent either.

[0] https://www.portals.org/

Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Post by secretsatan »

hamdingers wrote: post #17

From the video this appears to be face detection, with some cute strings attached at random to the detected faces. I don't see evidence of facial recognition.

Aphex twin did this years ago, replacing his sinister face over the faces of the crowd at his concerts

Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Post by anigbrowl »

hooskerdu wrote: post #44
sarreph wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The (presumably fully human) author is listed in the byline at the top of the article. What is sadly rather ironic is the author's first name, "Al" looks like AI when stylised in the article's font.

Could be a clever nom de plume?

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. 'Al' is not an uncommon name.

Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Post by bongodongobob »

thw_9a83c wrote: post #11

> The band deployed live facial recognition technology that captured and analyzed attendees during their recent performance. I think more drama has been created around this than is necessary. Based on the video, the real-time projected visitor's faces were not analyzed. They were simply shown with a random description flag attached, such as "energetic," "compassionate," "inspiring," "fitness influencer," or "cloud wa…

Drama? They were making a point. And it seems like it was taken. "If this outrages you, this isn't even the tip of the iceberg compared to what governments are doing."

Re: Massive Attack turns concert into facial recognition surveillance experiment

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Post by autoexec »

maplethorpe wrote: post #6

A few sentences in, I was thinking that the article felt AI-generated, so I scrolled to the bottom of the page. There's no author listed, but there is this disclaimer: "AI assists in refining our editorial process, ensuring that every article is engaging, clear and succinct." One thing I hope we'll see in the future on these types of articles is the ability to view the original prompt. If your goal is to be succinct,…

> One thing I hope we'll see in the future on these types of articles is the ability to view the original prompt.

Would it matter if the same prompt gives different output? You couldn't verify it.

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