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Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by benrutter »

vodou wrote: post #137
jamesblonde wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Sweden, we have Swish, thank God. We don't have Greenland either, so people aren't as worried about 'exogenous shocks'.

Swish is great, but it is sensitive infrastructure. It has already been down multiple times due to DDoS attacks (together with BankId). Don't let Swish completely replace a stash of cash at home.

I've got bad news for you on that front: https://www.explorsweden.com/sweden-destinations/sweden-a-ca...

(tldr Sweden is pretty cashless and a lot of shops don't accept cash)

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

ssl232 wrote: post #175
walthamstow wrote: post #153

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Honestly it seems like I am the only one in my local Aldi who does this. I see people picking up fish that is three days older than the one at the back.

The greatest downside to online grocery delivery is that you can’t then do this.

What I found (but this was during the panny-D) that only grocery stuff had an even longer shelf life than the store itself, that is, it was really fast moving stuff apparently.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by Symbiote »

14 wrote: post #43
jpalawaga wrote: post #32

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Buying a bunch and then blaming everyone else 12h after you seems disingenuous. It sounds like you’re trying to clear your conscious from panic buying. However, some people went to the store to find nothing because they weren’t able to go at the same time as you.

I am not blaming others at all but my point was more to ops question about people panic buying the answer is yes people will do so. Without limits those with lots of money will take the lions share. I am not trying to clear my conscious. I know I am a good person and literally would give the shirt off my back. But I had a hint things might get bad and as a father of young children above all and everything in this wor…

There was very little paid buying in Denmark, as there were very few selfish people like you buying a years worth of food.

The government announced that there was plenty of stock, but panic buying would mean it couldn't be brought onto the shelves in time, so please don't. People didn't.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

clan wrote: post #174
walthamstow wrote: post #153

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Honestly it seems like I am the only one in my local Aldi who does this. I see people picking up fish that is three days older than the one at the back.

Around here it is quite common to do with dairy products. I however choose not to do so quite deliberately. I want to avoid food waste. I just check the date is "good enough". My regular shop has a good enough flow that I usually pick from the front. Food waste is a trending concern around here. But I think you and I who cares about shelf life belongs to the same minority. The majority has enough other worries and do…

Some dairy products here - milk mainly - moves so fast there's only ever one expiration date available, lol.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by scrollaway »

dmix wrote: post #99
wojciii wrote: post #85

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This is because of the Ukraine war. We as a country are exposed to being attacked by Russia. Be that cyber attacks or destruction of assets by sleeper agents. So instead of decentalizing the electrical grid and making sure it's secure someone at Dansk Supermarked thinks it will earn them money to be prepared for some future crisis. I find the article native.. it says they trust Nets (payment company) to work offline…

I have a feeling tens of thousands of drones would be a better investment if your concern is Russia vs NATO. But if it’s just a business reacting to popular sentiment then it’s a fine business strategy I guess. Or just useful spin / wealthy owners paranoia.

Don’t worry, most countries are buying tens of thousands of drones. That investment is happening. (Source: I work in this sector)

(Worth noting: Your comment sounds like “I have a feeling fixing (critical bug 1) would be a better investment than (fixing critical bug 2)”. You fix both.)

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

netfortius wrote: post #122
throwawayqqq11 wrote: post #92

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> stock shelf-stable products in these stores and at some point in their shelf life, transfer them out to other stores for actual consumption Back in my days in retail, we were ordered to put resupply as FILO into the shelfs. It makes sense to sell the oldest products first. So why the transfer shuffle?

> FILO Hard to address the consumers' tendency to "reach out in the back", to get longer expiration time products.

That's only a minority though (like me), most just pick whatever is convenient. I think it really depends on how fast they eat stuff. But a lot of stuff is only dated for two weeks here.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

schainks wrote: post #138
cl0ckt0wer wrote: post #128

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What is the difference between this and a slightly larger warehouse?

One of the design requirements is no one should be located more than 50km from a store, so I wouldn't be surprised if larger warehouses are part of the plan when that 50km radius includes densely populated areas.

Yeah I was about to say, I think it makes some sense for warehouses to also have an open store where people can buy things in bulk.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by tommica »

chvid wrote: post #118

One of our biggest practical vulnerabilities is that our payment and electronic id infrastructure (nets, dankort, mitid) has been sold off to a private company (Mastercard) even though it was at one point a government owned and developed setup.

Yeah, it's such a massive infrastructure weakness. Once digital currency is the only option, things will get wild.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by dijit »

benrutter wrote: post #181
vodou wrote: post #137

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Swish is great, but it is sensitive infrastructure. It has already been down multiple times due to DDoS attacks (together with BankId). Don't let Swish completely replace a stash of cash at home.

I've got bad news for you on that front: https://www.explorsweden.com/sweden-destinations/sweden-a-ca... (tldr Sweden is pretty cashless and a lot of shops don't accept cash)

speaking from a Swedish perspective, I haven’t even seen Swedish currency in about eight years.

I’m not even joking.

Re: Danish supermarket chain is setting up "Emergency Stores"

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Post by dijit »

cess11 wrote: post #146
jamesblonde wrote: post #129

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In Sweden, we have Swish, thank God. We don't have Greenland either, so people aren't as worried about 'exogenous shocks'.

We've invited foreign occupation through the DCA with the US and there was very little resistance so clearly few swedes care about sovereignty and territorial integrity, which changes in which I assume is what you mean by "exogenous schocks".

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