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Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?

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It really opened my eyes to the lack of actual interest in reality. The number of people willing to believe what they're told by social media or by the popular kids far exceed those who would try to understand the situation. It fascinates me that it's become so popular to defend people from reprisals for their own elected government's actions. I also found it really interesting that over a thousand Israelis were kill…

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Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?

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It really opened my eyes to the lack of actual interest in reality. The number of people willing to believe what they're told by social media or by the popular kids far exceed those who would try to understand the situation. It fascinates me that it's become so popular to defend people from reprisals for their own elected government's actions. I also found it really interesting that over a thousand Israelis were kill…

and on your last sentence:

this https://www.amazon.com/dp/000853019X/

maybe this https://www.amazon.com/dp/000853019X/

and probably this https://sapirjournal.org/social-justice/2021/critical-race-t...

Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?

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Planned starvation of civilians is not "the unfortunate reality of losing a war". Blocking aid is not "the unfortunate reality of losing a war". Bombing hospitals is not "the unfortunate reality of losing a war".

All of those things happened in wars throughout history so they are, unfortunately, the reality of losing this war. Don't confuse what you wish to not be true to what is actually true, geographically and historically speaking.

Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?

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Personally it impacted me in a way that I have lost faith in humanity. Everybody talks, but no body cares, no body takes serious actions. Kids, women, elderly, whole families are being killed for almost two years and no body gives a shit. Millions of people trapped in a land and moved from north to south from south to north like animals, have you seen videos of starving people running in masses to get food from aids…

Serious question, have other past conflicts in history not made you also lose faith in humanity? Studying what people did to each other even thousands of years ago, systematically beheading and parading them around on spikes for example, as many civilizations have done, has made me realize that humans simply do not change, for our biology and psychology remains the same.

Even still, have previous recent or concurrent conflicts like Myanmar or Sudan not caused you to lose faith either? I often find people who say this have some personal vested interest in this particular conflict and find it somewhat hypocritical that other such conflicts have not moved them the same way, for it's still humans fighting each other after all.

> Also big companies, they only care about money, ethics and morale do not exist, they only care about money money and more money.

I mean, yes, that is the purpose of corporations, they do not have morals by themselves. They are like machines to absorb money, you wouldn't expect a lawnmower to have ethics when it runs you over.

Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?

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It has made it clear to me that humans do not have any real ability to act on morality in our advanced society. I actually thought that in a sufficiently advanced society, like the one we have today, that we would be beyond certain things. I've gotten the lesson that this iteration of humanity really is forked from that previous iteration of humanity, and that the "moral" part of the codebase was never actually enhan…

I asked a question I'm curious to hear the answer from here to another similar response: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45207706

Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?

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Personally it impacted me in a way that I have lost faith in humanity. Everybody talks, but no body cares, no body takes serious actions. Kids, women, elderly, whole families are being killed for almost two years and no body gives a shit. Millions of people trapped in a land and moved from north to south from south to north like animals, have you seen videos of starving people running in masses to get food from aids…

Serious question, have other past conflicts in history not made you also lose faith in humanity? Studying what people did to each other even thousands of years ago, systematically beheading and parading them around on spikes for example, as many civilizations have done, has made me realize that humans simply do not change, for our biology and psychology remains the same. Even still, have previous recent or concurrent…

Yes all recent wars, but the comment was on a question related to Gaza.

Still gaza war feels different, maybe because it’s almost streamed live on social media platforms by the directly impacted people?

I don’t agree with the statement that corporations are machines to absorb money, behind corporations there are people and people must have morale.

Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?

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No major changes professionally other than that I have become a bit more careful about keeping my geopolitical opinions to myself. Also having some coworkers living in the Middle East makes the two recent Qatari strikes feel scarier. I had a lot of trouble doing anything during the week of the Iran war besides refreshing the news. I felt quite awkward around my Iranian coworkers knowing that my tax dollars were funding the bombing of their families.

It has taken a small but noticeable toll on my personal life. Amongst my family we find ourselves talking about the state of the occupation and how hopeless it makes us feel about humanity probably once a week. I can see my liberal Jewish friends having a lot of trouble being criticized and rejected from both sides of discourse in USA. I recently saw two jewish people shouting obscenities at each other while waiting to get off a plane and talking about Israel. Antisemitism on the street seems to be increasing -- I met someone a few days ago who started saying baseless hateful things minutes into our first conversation.

Probably like other people here I've spent a lot more of my free time in the last year learning about the history culture and politics of Israel, Palestine and Iran.

Re: Ask HN: Has the Gaza war affected the HN crowd?

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Personally it impacted me in a way that I have lost faith in humanity. Everybody talks, but no body cares, no body takes serious actions. Kids, women, elderly, whole families are being killed for almost two years and no body gives a shit. Millions of people trapped in a land and moved from north to south from south to north like animals, have you seen videos of starving people running in masses to get food from aids…

My opinion is caring about the Palestinians is incredibly performative. People that claim to care about Palestinians care about 'the cause' but not the individuals themselves.
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