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Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Post by MatthewPhillips »

Steko wrote: post #41
bane wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Looking at the iPhone 5, and when Apple started to go litigation crazy I think a couple factors have combined to force them to go this way. 1. The iPhone 5 is an incremental update to the iPhone 4 template. It doesn't mean it's a bad product, it actually looks like it's a very very nice device. But it isn't the leapfrog over the competition that people have come to expect and Apple has built its smartphone business a…

1. How does the iphone 5's feature set make them file litigation in early 2010? 2. Android started to outsell Apple in 2010 not "in the past year"

This is the first time a single phone (the SGS III) has outsold the iPhone in the U.S.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Post by saraid216 »

pohl wrote: post #77
archangel_one wrote: post #75

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Well, I guess when your announcement is based around language like "The biggest thing to happen to iphone since iphone", people are going to expect some big changes. Expectations might have been lower if they'd downplayed it a bit and called it iPhone 4X.

I thought phrases like "the biggest foo since sliced bread" means that sliced bread was a greater foo, but other intervening foos may be lesser. That doesn't seem terribly hyperbolic to me. The retina display on the 4 is the only one that I would say rivals the changes in the 5. The numbers are arbitrary anyway. People are silly. Apple tries to be as silent as possible and people get lathered up anyway.

That's never how I understood that idiom. I've always assumed that "since sliced bread" was a different way to say "ever".

So, "the best foo since sliced bread" reads as "the best foo ever".

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Post by eavc »

pohl wrote: post #77
archangel_one wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I guess when your announcement is based around language like "The biggest thing to happen to iphone since iphone", people are going to expect some big changes. Expectations might have been lower if they'd downplayed it a bit and called it iPhone 4X.

I thought phrases like "the biggest foo since sliced bread" means that sliced bread was a greater foo, but other intervening foos may be lesser. That doesn't seem terribly hyperbolic to me. The retina display on the 4 is the only one that I would say rivals the changes in the 5. The numbers are arbitrary anyway. People are silly. Apple tries to be as silent as possible and people get lathered up anyway.

The app store is a much bigger thing to happen to the iPhone than this.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Post by aristidb »

robomartin wrote: post #57

I am not taking sides. Don't have all the data. I'll just say that there's a huge difference between "Research & Development" and only "Development". The first is far more time consuming, risky and expensive. The second is a clear and guided roadmap that you simply follow to completion. I used to be an idealist. I bought the whole idea of "just build a better product" without question. And so I did. Many years ago I…

Interesting story, but the "I am not taking sides" is a plain lie.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Post by ghshephard »

BenoitEssiambre wrote: post #53

Wise man. The way I see it, Apple had a case regarding "trade dress". Some Samsung devices, for example the Galaxy Tab 10.1, do look too much like Apple products. However, the rest of the patents were ridiculous. If the bar for patent validity is going to be this low, most software developers will not be able to do a day's work without accidentally infringing on something. Every piece of software I've seen being buil…

I'm interested in why you thought the bar was set low? From all my reading, it sounded like Samsung had to go out of their way to emulate the Apple processes, it wasn't something they would have accidentally done.

I'm not saying I agree with the verdict, but a lot of people misrepresent this case as, "Apple has a patent on pinch-to-zoom" (not true), and Samsung was sued for building a rectangle-with-glass (not true) - instead of the actual, more complicated case.

In particular, which patent did you think was "ridiculous?"

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Post by Steko »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #81
Steko wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. How does the iphone 5's feature set make them file litigation in early 2010? 2. Android started to outsell Apple in 2010 not "in the past year"

This is the first time a single phone (the SGS III) has outsold the iPhone in the U.S.

minor nit: it wouldn't shock me if SGS 3 did win one or more months and I have no doubt devices will start to do that with regularity but that data point was questionable and looked to be based on carrier store data only.

more minor nit: blackberry frequently outsold the iphone for several years.

trivia/speculation: original droid launched 11/09 and finished 3rd to iphone 3gs's 2nd for the whole '09 holiday quarter (bb curve was #1) so it's not unlikely that the Droid was ahead of the iphone in one or both of Nov and Dec 09. I imagine there might be other months where single non-blackberry devices have beaten the iphone.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Post by pedalpete »

aristidb wrote: post #85
robomartin wrote: post #57

I am not taking sides. Don't have all the data. I'll just say that there's a huge difference between "Research & Development" and only "Development". The first is far more time consuming, risky and expensive. The second is a clear and guided roadmap that you simply follow to completion. I used to be an idealist. I bought the whole idea of "just build a better product" without question. And so I did. Many years ago I…

Interesting story, but the "I am not taking sides" is a plain lie.

That's not fair. He's not taking sides in the Apple vs. Samsung case. He has a valid opinion about the validity of the patent system, but that doesn't mean that patents should always be upheld. He's just sharing his experience (though it doesn't really have much bearing on the original post either).

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Post by JimmaDaRustla »

SquareWheel wrote: post #47
JimmaDaRustla wrote: post #18

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@potatolicous - Maybe they are Canadian? We seem to use that word wrong all the time. Lets just call him LEGENDARY.

Canadian here, I've always heard infamous used in the negative context?

It was probably just me and the red-neck rural inbred area I'm from.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Post by pedalpete »

harshpotatoes wrote: post #23

It's interesting that camera quality is so important for people, yet I find it difficult to find information on image quality beyond how many megapixels the sesnor has. The least they could do is tell me the sensor size/aperture size too. You really have to search the specialized review sites to find good comparisons on image quality.

That's because the general public has been trained that more megapixels = better pictures. It's like horsepower in cars, or thread count in sheets.

We're starting to see manufacturers differentiate on aperature and other details. Nokia talked about how their mechanical stabilization allowed for longer exposures, etc. etc.

But when somebody asks me if the camera in my xperia s is any good, I still respond "yeah, it's 12 megapixels".

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