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Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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I hope he's right that this gets reversed. Apple makes a lot of best-in-class products (and I know some people that think everything they make is best-in-class). Do they think they need to do this kind of litigation to keep making products people will buy? Are they trying to discredit Samsung as copycats? Or is it just a case of "if it costs us $100m to pursue 10 lawsuits with a 5% chance of any one of them getting u…

Looking at the iPhone 5, and when Apple started to go litigation crazy I think a couple factors have combined to force them to go this way. 1. The iPhone 5 is an incremental update to the iPhone 4 template. It doesn't mean it's a bad product, it actually looks like it's a very very nice device. But it isn't the leapfrog over the competition that people have come to expect and Apple has built its smartphone business a…

1. How does the iphone 5's feature set make them file litigation in early 2010?

2. Android started to outsell Apple in 2010 not "in the past year"

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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This is lazy journalism. Will people stop posting what Steve Wozniak thinks about everything? Just because he's Steve Wozniak doesn't make him a foremost expert on everything related to technology. Does this quote add any insight or value at all? “I don’t agree with it — very small things I don’t really call that innovative. I wish everybody would just agree to exchange all the patents and everybody can build the bes…

Actually it does. The man is not claiming to be an expert on technology, however he did help co-create one of the most successful and profitable companies in history. You have an opinion, why shouldn't he?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does infamous not mean "evil" or "bad reputation"? How come people keep using it as if its a good thing?

Infamous does indeed refer to the bad kind of fame - this is either a simple brain fart, or possibly the writer just doesn't have a very sound grasp of the language.

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Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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I can't believe these guys just called the Woz "infamous".

Does infamous not mean "evil" or "bad reputation"? How come people keep using it as if its a good thing?

It does, but it is often used ironically. So much so that it has started to be used incorrectly, or un-ironically.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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It's interesting that camera quality is so important for people, yet I find it difficult to find information on image quality beyond how many megapixels the sesnor has. The least they could do is tell me the sensor size/aperture size too. You really have to search the specialized review sites to find good comparisons on image quality.

Not sure exactly what this references, but Apple actually gives fairly specific information on all of their iDevices cameras—on the Apple product page it specifically states 5 lens elements and an aperture of 2.4 for the iPhone 5. And 4 lens element and an aperture of 2.8 for the iPhone 4.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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I hope he's right that this gets reversed. Apple makes a lot of best-in-class products (and I know some people that think everything they make is best-in-class). Do they think they need to do this kind of litigation to keep making products people will buy? Are they trying to discredit Samsung as copycats? Or is it just a case of "if it costs us $100m to pursue 10 lawsuits with a 5% chance of any one of them getting u…

For the dozenth time: this is not some radical choice Apple made. Apple is, as a public company, responsible to act in its own interest within the current economic system. The system is screwed up, but that doesn't mean that any single company has a responsibility to unilaterally disarm.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does infamous not mean "evil" or "bad reputation"? How come people keep using it as if its a good thing?

@potatolicous - Maybe they are Canadian? We seem to use that word wrong all the time. Lets just call him LEGENDARY.

Canadian here, I've always heard infamous used in the negative context?

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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This will just get him disavowed as a cofounder of Apple by the hardcore supporters. Eventually no one will remember he helped start Apple and everyone will think Jobs was the only one. (edit: true enough that they already see him as the black sheep, the embarrassing uncle everyone tries to ignore) No one cares what the "naive, idealistic" engineer clueless about business thinks. That's the battle we're fighting - to…

He founded Apple, created the Apple I/II, but Apple did a lot since then - and I know everyone disagrees and will vote me down - but e.g. for me the defining moment, the most important event was the Mac OS X 10.0 (a Cube for me, as a NeXT user).

Before that Apple was really really unattractive to me (at that time a C64/Amiga/i486 user) - I never found it inspiring or powerful in any way - and it was a pain when I needed to use it at the university.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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This will just get him disavowed as a cofounder of Apple by the hardcore supporters. Eventually no one will remember he helped start Apple and everyone will think Jobs was the only one. (edit: true enough that they already see him as the black sheep, the embarrassing uncle everyone tries to ignore) No one cares what the "naive, idealistic" engineer clueless about business thinks. That's the battle we're fighting - to…

Well said. I think it's sad that the mind behind Apple technology is getting forgotten while the marketer gets all the glory. I, too, hope Woz is right and the case gets overturned on appeal. I am also noticing the shift to Android in my circles. This could be a good thing.

I don't think Woz is in danger of getting forgotten anytime soon. In fact, given that the last technical contribution he made to Apple was, as far as I recall, about 30 years ago, it seems to me that is getting rather generous credit for Apple's success.

Re: Steve Wozniak on Samsung patent verdict: ‘I hate it and I don’t agree with it’

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Samsung may have copied the shapes and a few gestures like slide to unlock with the original galaxy s. But anyone who claims that it gave them a market advantage is being disingenuous.

Woz has always been rational about stuff and what he says. I hope the verdict gets overturned.

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