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14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

whimsicalism wrote: post #145
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #141

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Out of curiosity, what gives it away as AI slop? (I just found it inconcise.)

the concluding sentence rings very strongly of the it’s not X it’s Y concluding pattern plus the usage of colons everywhere. idk everything except for the first sentence just sounds very much like GPT patterns of speech if you look at their comment history, you’ll notice how many of their comments have the It’s not X but Y concluding sentence pattern that is a GPT dead-ringer. Seeing people try to pass off comments l…

I don't know. To me, I would expect GPT to have a comma after "apps" in the last paragraph. To me, it reads like a human writing somewhat badly.

But, even if it was GPT: If a non-native-English-speaker wants to post here, and wants to use GPT to smooth out their bad English, is that terrible? In this case I would say no - they actually had something to say, on topic, that sounded like a reasonable perspective, perhaps even one with some inside knowledge.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by freedomben »

01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #192
Quarrelsome wrote: post #156

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I think its quite something that we all waste our time over divisions like left/right, capitalism/socialism, woke/not-woke when in practice; this is the only division that matters. Those who are trying to follow the rules and make the nation better, and those that are only active for their self-interest.

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I think you completely missed The point of the comment you replied to. It's not stupidity, it's avarice. And you being willing to overlook it is exactly the problem parent is describing

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by whimsicalism »

AnimalMuppet wrote: post #211
whimsicalism wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the concluding sentence rings very strongly of the it’s not X it’s Y concluding pattern plus the usage of colons everywhere. idk everything except for the first sentence just sounds very much like GPT patterns of speech if you look at their comment history, you’ll notice how many of their comments have the It’s not X but Y concluding sentence pattern that is a GPT dead-ringer. Seeing people try to pass off comments l…

I don't know. To me, I would expect GPT to have a comma after "apps" in the last paragraph. To me, it reads like a human writing somewhat badly. But, even if it was GPT: If a non-native-English-speaker wants to post here, and wants to use GPT to smooth out their bad English, is that terrible? In this case I would say no - they actually had something to say, on topic, that sounded like a reasonable perspective, perhap…

think they’re just deleting the em dashes. read their comment history

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

barbazoo wrote: post #150
6LLvveMx2koXfwn wrote: post #105

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re corruption: I was flying from Kathmandu to Bangkok in 2000 and I couldn't book a ticket on the plane until the day it flew as 'half the plane' was reserved for 'Government Officials' 'just in case'. Amusingly they were all on one side of the plane too, the side that can see Mount Everest during the flight.

I don’t quite see how this is indicative of corruption

It’s a shadow tax on non-government consumers. Imagine if you ran a restaurant and had to always keep a table free for the mayor’s family.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by uncircle »

Quarrelsome wrote: post #156
bhickey wrote: post #32

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The corruption is simply incredible. About fifteen years ago I found myself in Kathmandu after getting altitude sickness. The team's fixer brought me to lunch with some government officials. The topic of discussion? How to steal from a hydroelectric project. One of his guests outright asked, "should we be talking about this in front of this guy?" The fixer shrugged it off saying "he's a Westerner, what is he going to…

I think its quite something that we all waste our time over divisions like left/right, capitalism/socialism, woke/not-woke when in practice; this is the only division that matters. Those who are trying to follow the rules and make the nation better, and those that are only active for their self-interest.

Yes, because all rules have been created for your own good, so you must follow without ever questioning them. The world is more nuanced than your silly black-and-white duality, unless it's a Twitter argument and it's all about dividing the world in convenient us-vs-them boxes.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

snapcaster wrote: post #180
adgjlsfhk1 wrote: post #127

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there's a conspiracy theory that every revolution of the past 100 years was caused by the cia.

I don't like comments like this, because while you're right that many people think everything happening everywhere is the CIA. The CIA (and US gov) _has_ been involved in an absurd amount of regime changes (that we know about). CIA involvement in something like this shouldn't be dismissed out of hand https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in_r...

> CIA involvement in something like this shouldn't be dismissed out of hand

Without evidence, yes, it should be. Just as it should be dismissed, if proposed without evidence, that this was the product of Indian, Chinese or Iranian meddling. Particularly when we have credible evidence going the other way of legitimate reasons a population would flip out.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by RugnirViking »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #115
whimsicalism wrote: post #110

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I don’t agree and I think EU countries have shown they are more than willing to trample over free communication to maintain their “cordon sanitaire” as well as a certain PoV on Israel. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/telegram-founder-says-h...

EU members have an independent judiciary. Nepal does not. The local rep would be a whipping boy in a way they wouldn’t in the EU.

Have you seen how public polls on the judiciary have changed in just the past 5 years? People do not believe our institutions work. Though the judiciary may be independent, people believe that it is cut of the same cloth -- elite schools, disconnect from normal life

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by fruitworks »

whimsicalism wrote: post #206
fruitworks wrote: post #193

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How to win any argument on HN: 0. Start by moving the overton window to the edge of civility. Do not provide any justifications for your opinion. For example, "Protestors inside a government building should be met with violence" 1. Don't address any points they make 2. Make a snarky passive agressive response, thus winning. 3. Flag them for hurting your feelings. By discussing your ideas concretely ("who should perfo…

sorry for not engaging faithfully with a user that called me a coward within 3 sentences. your comment was flagged by third parties

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

factorialboy wrote: post #113
alephnerd wrote: post #95

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China and India are meddling in this. Nothing in Nepali politics happens without either China or India's hands or implicit blessing. Heck, regional Nepali politicans will literally vie for Nitish Kumar or Lalu Prasad Yadav's (the two perpetual CMs of Bihar) backing. Even the Armed Forces(pro-India) and the Armed Police Force (pro-China) are at each others throats. Whenever India feels Nepal is getting too close to Ch…

First, Maldives. Then, Bangladesh, Now, Nepal. An unstable Nepal allows the destabilization of two critical states in India. Regime change in India is the big prize. -- China and India do meddle. But a classic color revolution, such as this one, is the signature of you-know-who.

Nepal has always been somewhat of a basket case. Remember when their prince went nuts and shot the royal family up? Then the whole country went through the wringer in the mid-00s.

Shame, it’s one place I really want to visit, but it seems like it will be a bit of a challenge (well, at least not Iran-level challenge, which is another place I want to visit someday and has different but even bigger problems).

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