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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by FollowingTheDao » Mon, Sep 08, 2025, 1:59 PM UTC

Quarrelsome wrote: post #156

bhickey wrote: post #32

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The corruption is simply incredible. About fifteen years ago I found myself in Kathmandu after getting altitude sickness. The team's fixer brought me to lunch with some government officials. The topic of discussion? How to steal from a hydroelectric project. One of his guests outright asked, "should we be talking about this in front of this guy?" The fixer shrugged it off saying "he's a Westerner, what is he going to…

I think its quite something that we all waste our time over divisions like left/right, capitalism/socialism, woke/not-woke when in practice; this is the only division that matters. Those who are trying to follow the rules and make the nation better, and those that are only active for their self-interest.

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by hnthrowaway121 » Mon, Sep 08, 2025, 2:00 PM UTC

whimsicalism wrote: post #145

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #141

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Out of curiosity, what gives it away as AI slop? (I just found it inconcise.)

the concluding sentence rings very strongly of the it’s not X it’s Y concluding pattern plus the usage of colons everywhere. idk everything except for the first sentence just sounds very much like GPT patterns of speech if you look at their comment history, you’ll notice how many of their comments have the It’s not X but Y concluding sentence pattern that is a GPT dead-ringer. Seeing people try to pass off comments l…

The first sentences are this way as well:

- positive affirmation - thing is not just one thing - thing is something else

Things don’t feel like how anybody would speak.

Looking at the account I see all comments appear to be AI generated but it makes me wonder if it’s actually just AI translating from another language or something. Which is kind of a fair enough reason to use AI, in low-stakes comment setting like this.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by pixxel » Mon, Sep 08, 2025, 2:01 PM UTC

simgt wrote: post #91

pjmlp wrote: post #54

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As first generation out of Salazar's dictorship, our country now having a right majority with a Nazi party in the mix, makes me really sad. How short the memory of folks can be, especially with my parents and grand parents generations still around, but apparently their memories and experiences now fall into death hears. Maybe when they start getting visits from the eventually new state protection police, they will un…

A bit of brainwashing through some media owned by billionaires and there we go for another round. My parents' generation is voting en masse for a party that was literally funded by a former Waffen-SS leader after WW2, while thinking "the left" is antisemitic.

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by hopelite » Mon, Sep 08, 2025, 2:02 PM UTC

factorialboy wrote: post #89

lionturtle wrote: post #10

It was absolutely not just social media ban, it was mostly youth protesting against the corrupt government and unfairness, social media ban was one element that was against the freedom of speech, but it was right around the time where everyone was documenting the rich politicians, their business connections and their families that have been living lavishly and just inheriting the election seats from generation to gen…

Classic color revolution — China and India will be watching intently.

It very much sounds like it; "grooming" and instrumentalizing the local younger generation's innate and legitimate frustrations for western (read: Israeli, British, and US "intelligence" cabal clowns) interests to foment instability and/or installing a more usable and pliable government. It smells of not only every moralizing "color revolution", but it is also an on-the-nose wedge between China and India (read: BRICS) called Nepal, if you look at the map.

The recent appearance of William van Wagenen on the Scott Horton Show was rather eye opening to me on some matters, even though I have been very well aware of these types of operations for many years now. For example, the "Arab Spring" that most people at the time thought was an organic citizen protest/uprising, but was clearly a clown cabal operation, has even deeper roots with position papers for many years prior clearly outlining the exact progression for how things would end up unfolding during the "Arab Spring".

It's definitely worth a listen, even if it may sound bewildering to people who have no real context for that world outside of the mainstream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJa1sbAqylE

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by Ajedi32 » Mon, Sep 08, 2025, 2:02 PM UTC

Fricken wrote: post #15

ktallett wrote: post #4

These governments that block social media or control/monitor the internet to avoid critics of government or dissent, whether that be Nepal, Tunisia, Turkey, UK, Germany, China, Egypt, US, Russia, Israel, are always shocked when there is an uprising. Unsurprisingly when a government tries to control people this closely many will see the flaws in it and make a stand and rightly so whether that be digitally or in person…

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Interesting. Are you arguing in that case censorship would have been a good thing? Is there a principled stance to be made here, or is it just "people should have freedom of speech when I agree with their goals, and be censored if I don't"?

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by FirmwareBurner » Mon, Sep 08, 2025, 2:02 PM UTC

koonsolo wrote: post #132

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #8

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Because people in the West have been indoctrinated to trust their governments far too much to an unhealthy degree to actually think that maybe their government doesn't have their best interest at heart and to start protesting. And also because they're in the trap of a government provided cushy lifestyle which the government can terminate at will without violence (de-banking, de-pensioning, de-uneployment, de-social h…

Hey, Belgian here. Our government cannot just de-bank, de-pension or de- anything else you are suggesting, and definitely not by the "crime" of protesting (what a ridiculous statement!) We protest here too by the way, this weekend about 100k in Brussels. That you make these claims is just plain up ridiculous.

Are you aware that the world(and Europe for that matter) is much larger than Belgium, with way different laws on what the state can do to you?

For example in Canada they de-banked the truckers, in Germany they de-pensioned a retiree who was planning to bring back the Kaiser.

So yeah, it happens, you're just ignorant from your bubble.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by martin-t » Mon, Sep 08, 2025, 2:04 PM UTC

whamlastxmas wrote: post #136

ddtaylor wrote: post #46

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"See what you made me do" is a common phrase in domestic abuse.

It’s also irrefutable fact that pro-state or pro-cop agitators throughout history will pretend to be a demonstrator and throw a single brick to give the cops an excuse to break some skulls

In primitive societies where people are expected to resolve their own problems because everyone is roughly equal, violence is the principal currency, for better or worse.

But in "civilized" societies with multiple layers of power structures, you are not supposed to solve your own problem, you are supposed to show somebody in a position of power that you are the victim so they solve the problem for you. This means victimhood is the principal currency of power.

Don't believe me? Every governments which allows protests says they must always be peaceful and "violence doesn't belong in politics". Yet how many of those governments were created by violent armed revolt against a previous authoritarian government? How many by "peaceful" protests?

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by Quarrelsome » Mon, Sep 08, 2025, 2:05 PM UTC

checker659 wrote: post #131

alephnerd wrote: post #95

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China and India are meddling in this. Nothing in Nepali politics happens without either China or India's hands or implicit blessing. Heck, regional Nepali politicans will literally vie for Nitish Kumar or Lalu Prasad Yadav's (the two perpetual CMs of Bihar) backing. Even the Armed Forces(pro-India) and the Armed Police Force (pro-China) are at each others throats. Whenever India feels Nepal is getting too close to Ch…

About china/india: Nope. This is objectively false.

surely needs some sort of citation. Is it not rather obvious that a small nation bordered by two bigger nations would be unduly influenced by them?

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by fruitworks » Mon, Sep 08, 2025, 2:05 PM UTC

whimsicalism wrote: post #149

fruitworks wrote: post #142

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all that from one comment, huh?

Who do you want to step in to save the capitol from armed right wing protesters? The police and the military are largely sympathetic to the right wing.

The only solution is for the left-wing of US politics to stop disarming itself. The reason that voting power exists is because it represents the fighting power of the voters. When you decouple the two, you create a power imbalance that gangsters and tyrants can exploit.

Capitol riots are just a symptom of that power imbalance.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by brendoelfrendo » Mon, Sep 08, 2025, 2:06 PM UTC

barbazoo wrote: post #150

6LLvveMx2koXfwn wrote: post #105

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re corruption: I was flying from Kathmandu to Bangkok in 2000 and I couldn't book a ticket on the plane until the day it flew as 'half the plane' was reserved for 'Government Officials' 'just in case'. Amusingly they were all on one side of the plane too, the side that can see Mount Everest during the flight.

I don’t quite see how this is indicative of corruption

I believe the implication is that those seats would in fact be available to you if you knew who to bribe. And the fact that they were all on the Everest-facing side of the plane suggests that whoever controlled those seats realized that they could get a premium for them.