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14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by checker659 »

alephnerd wrote: post #95
factorialboy wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Classic color revolution — China and India will be watching intently.

China and India are meddling in this. Nothing in Nepali politics happens without either China or India's hands or implicit blessing. Heck, regional Nepali politicans will literally vie for Nitish Kumar or Lalu Prasad Yadav's (the two perpetual CMs of Bihar) backing. Even the Armed Forces(pro-India) and the Armed Police Force (pro-China) are at each others throats. Whenever India feels Nepal is getting too close to Ch…

About china/india: Nope. This is objectively false.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by koonsolo »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #8
paganel wrote: post #5

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It shows that the Nepalese have a higher civic response compared to many in the West, just look at the Brits, where in effect there is a social media ban on lots and lots of things that affect day-to-day life.

Because people in the West have been indoctrinated to trust their governments far too much to an unhealthy degree to actually think that maybe their government doesn't have their best interest at heart and to start protesting. And also because they're in the trap of a government provided cushy lifestyle which the government can terminate at will without violence (de-banking, de-pensioning, de-uneployment, de-social h…

Hey, Belgian here. Our government cannot just de-bank, de-pension or de- anything else you are suggesting, and definitely not by the "crime" of protesting (what a ridiculous statement!)

We protest here too by the way, this weekend about 100k in Brussels.

That you make these claims is just plain up ridiculous.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by rkomorn »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #8
paganel wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It shows that the Nepalese have a higher civic response compared to many in the West, just look at the Brits, where in effect there is a social media ban on lots and lots of things that affect day-to-day life.

Because people in the West have been indoctrinated to trust their governments far too much to an unhealthy degree to actually think that maybe their government doesn't have their best interest at heart and to start protesting. And also because they're in the trap of a government provided cushy lifestyle which the government can terminate at will without violence (de-banking, de-pensioning, de-uneployment, de-social h…

News to me that the French, for example, trust their government and do not protest.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by wer232essf »

lionturtle wrote: post #10

It was absolutely not just social media ban, it was mostly youth protesting against the corrupt government and unfairness, social media ban was one element that was against the freedom of speech, but it was right around the time where everyone was documenting the rich politicians, their business connections and their families that have been living lavishly and just inheriting the election seats from generation to gen…

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by bhickey »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #87
bhickey wrote: post #62

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One of my college friends is a documentary filmmaker. He dragged me along as he followed a group of glaciologists up to a high-risk melt lake in the Himalayas. Somewhere above 16,000 feet I got altitude sickness and headed back to Kathmandu ahead of the group. I got stuck in the city for two or three days waiting for my flight, under the supervision of the team's local fixer. This guy had his finger in every pie: tou…

That actually sounds like a documentary I’d like to watch. Was it ever released? You managed to make melting ice sound exciting.

I don't think he ever released it as a feature. Here's some footage he shot on an expedition earlier the same year: https://youtu.be/ZN8a-pP60wk?feature=shared

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by whamlastxmas »

ddtaylor wrote: post #46
bjackman wrote: post #41

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Also note the phrasing. The content is "the police killed 14 people". But the form is "the situation turned violent as a result of the protester's actions".

"See what you made me do" is a common phrase in domestic abuse.

It’s also irrefutable fact that pro-state or pro-cop agitators throughout history will pretend to be a demonstrator and throw a single brick to give the cops an excuse to break some skulls

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by hliyan »

lionturtle wrote: post #10

It was absolutely not just social media ban, it was mostly youth protesting against the corrupt government and unfairness, social media ban was one element that was against the freedom of speech, but it was right around the time where everyone was documenting the rich politicians, their business connections and their families that have been living lavishly and just inheriting the election seats from generation to gen…

Reminscient of Sri Lanka in 2022 (I was there). The lack of petrol and powercuts were the straw that broke the back of a camel that had been overburdend for several decades. Foreign "experts" and "analysts" trying to make sense of these events often sound either hilarious or condescending to locals who are living through them.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by whimsicalism »

wer232essf wrote: post #134
lionturtle wrote: post #10

It was absolutely not just social media ban, it was mostly youth protesting against the corrupt government and unfairness, social media ban was one element that was against the freedom of speech, but it was right around the time where everyone was documenting the rich politicians, their business connections and their families that have been living lavishly and just inheriting the election seats from generation to gen…

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by newyankee »

jacknews wrote: post #100

Today is UNESCO's International Literacy Day, and this year's theme is digital literacy. Quite ironic to choose this day to start trying to make an entire nation digitally illiterate.

Might be the wrong reasons, but highly skewed and externally controlled social media do not necessarily mean bastions of free speech, they have shown that powerful group with right incentives and structures can capture and influence perception. Everyone has biases and social media will reinforce or amplify them if an external adversary uses in a targeted way.

Also while free speech and protests are important, the nature of protests or certain elements fuelling fire in the resentment can lead to these becoming completely out of control and destroying property or harming passersby. Sometimes pure anarchy is the goal of routine rabble rousers who use this opportunity. So I will go out on a limb over here and say no one over here really knows what happened in the sequence of decision making by the police and there may be some instances where certain actions may have been justified to avoid further escalation.

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