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14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by thinkingtoilet »

asib wrote: post #17

> The demonstration turned violent when some protesters entered the Parliament complex, prompting police to resort to baton charges, tear gas shells and rubber bullets to disperse the crowd, eyewitnesses said. 14 people dead from so-called "non-lethal" means. How do 14 people end up dead without the police coming with intent to do harm?

Rubber bullets have been shown time and time again to be lethal. Just because they don't kill you every time doesn't mean they aren't lethal. You can survive a gun shot too. Immense shame should be poured on every media outlet that licks the boot of authoritarians when they repeat this lie.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by nirava »

lionturtle wrote: post #10

It was absolutely not just social media ban, it was mostly youth protesting against the corrupt government and unfairness, social media ban was one element that was against the freedom of speech, but it was right around the time where everyone was documenting the rich politicians, their business connections and their families that have been living lavishly and just inheriting the election seats from generation to gen…

agreed. you don't kill 19 kids protesting social media ban. it goes far far far deeper than that.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by factorialboy »

alephnerd wrote: post #95
factorialboy wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Classic color revolution — China and India will be watching intently.

China and India are meddling in this. Nothing in Nepali politics happens without either China or India's hands or implicit blessing. Heck, regional Nepali politicans will literally vie for Nitish Kumar or Lalu Prasad Yadav's (the two perpetual CMs of Bihar) backing. Even the Armed Forces(pro-India) and the Armed Police Force (pro-China) are at each others throats. Whenever India feels Nepal is getting too close to Ch…

First, Maldives.

Then, Bangladesh,

Now, Nepal.

An unstable Nepal allows the destabilization of two critical states in India.

Regime change in India is the big prize.

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China and India do meddle.

But a classic color revolution, such as this one, is the signature of you-know-who.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

SirHumphrey wrote: post #82
KaiserPro wrote: post #45

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> are wasted on societies who don't have memories of what it took to earn them I mean thats a bit rich given the massive civil war, dictatorship and overthrow of the monarchy that all happened within living memory.

It's an overtly American perspective - perspective of a nation perpetually terrified of repeating the downfall of the Roman Republic. In reality long periods of political instability make people quite happy to trade freedoms for peace.

> long periods of political instability make people quite happy to trade freedoms for peace

To be fair, the Romans traded long periods of recurring civil wars for peace. We’re nowhere close to that in America.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

whimsicalism wrote: post #110
alephnerd wrote: post #104

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The difference is, you can trust an EU country isn't filing a claim to put down a color revolution or that you can appeal via the judiciary. A hybrid regime like Nepal is not like that.

I don’t agree and I think EU countries have shown they are more than willing to trample over free communication to maintain their “cordon sanitaire” as well as a certain PoV on Israel. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/telegram-founder-says-h...

EU members have an independent judiciary. Nepal does not. The local rep would be a whipping boy in a way they wouldn’t in the EU.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by whimsicalism »

myrmidon wrote: post #90
canadiantim wrote: post #64

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[flagged]

What exactly are you referring to, reduced political correctness demands? On the other hand, you have the government meddling with the political alignment of educational institutions, which is both new and alarming (e.g. the Harvard thing). Domestic use of military is another really bad precedent from a "freedom" point of view, so I think the current administration is significantly net-negative so far.

i think they likely are referring to the 2019-2020 trend of government leaning on social media companies to block/suppress certain content. not saying that is worse than what is happening now, but it definitely happened and i remember not being able to send links to news articles deemed politically problematic or “likely Russian disinformation”

e: cmon, downvoted just for providing the example all of these replies are asking for - really?

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by alephnerd »

factorialboy wrote: post #113
alephnerd wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China and India are meddling in this. Nothing in Nepali politics happens without either China or India's hands or implicit blessing. Heck, regional Nepali politicans will literally vie for Nitish Kumar or Lalu Prasad Yadav's (the two perpetual CMs of Bihar) backing. Even the Armed Forces(pro-India) and the Armed Police Force (pro-China) are at each others throats. Whenever India feels Nepal is getting too close to Ch…

First, Maldives. Then, Bangladesh, Now, Nepal. An unstable Nepal allows the destabilization of two critical states in India. Regime change in India is the big prize. -- China and India do meddle. But a classic color revolution, such as this one, is the signature of you-know-who.

KP Sharma Oli is pro-China which even Nepali media has pointed out [0]. And his formative years were spent growing up in a village (Garamani) barely 30 km outside Naxalbari during the Naxalbari Uprising, and attended secondary school barely 5 miles (Mechinagar) away from Naxalbari during the uprising.

In Nepali politics, Sher Bahadur Deuba is pro-India and Prachanda is pro-Prachanda (will back India some years, other years will back China).

The whole Indian internet conspiracy of "CIA ki saazish" is ridiculous when the US has barely 20 India scholars at all. There is 0 domain experience in India studies in the US, and that reflects in America's South Asia strategy (there is none).

[0] - https://kathmandupost.com/columns/2025/09/07/oli-s-diplomati...

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by sombragris »

mothballed wrote: post #52
sombragris wrote: post #50

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I'm from Paraguay. Can you elaborate? Which village? TIA.

It was close to "New Italy" (in Spanish), somewhere within 50 miles of Asuncion. I don't know much about Agriculture Engineering but there were a bunch of big milk vats, a couple electricians, and then a bunch of officials sitting around drinking the cold Yerba Matte stuff. I assume they brought me because they heard I was an electrical engineer and I saw they were wiring the place up.

Oh yeah, I know Nueva Italia. Will try to locate the project. Thanks for the specifics!

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by foxglacier »

SamoyedFurFluff wrote: post #72
jay-barronville wrote: post #19

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Hard agree. I’m always trying to get my fellow young Americans to understand this and it seems to go right over their heads a lot of times. My parents lived through multiple oppressive dictatorships before emigrating to America. Once I understood everything that they and their families experienced ( e.g. , family members being kidnapped, disappeared, and eventually murdered simply due their political views), I gained…

I actually don’t know if I agree with the last part. A chunk of the Rwandan genocide was a radio station instigating and advocating for the mass slaughter of a people. Atrocities in Myanmar also were originally advocated for in Facebook. On more personal levels, domestic abuse is also psychological torture and the wearing down of a person with words and it should be in someone’s right to file a restraining order to s…

That's a huge leap from directly instigating genocide that actually happened to "We must limit speech that advocates limiting the freedoms of people to live as independent and equal citizens." which is severe censorship of all sorts of political ideas, including ones which we already enact and most people agree with. There's a lot of widely-accepted government-enforced inequality (foreigners, prisoners, convicts, children, inherited rights, etc.) which just shows how overly broad the restrictions you say we must impose are. Even yourself saying that could be interpreted as a violation of your own rule! You also advocated for restraining orders! You're your own enemy. Your opinion could really benefit from some back and forth with other people to refine it into something more sensible. Hopefully I'm contributing a little to that.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

mananaysiempre wrote: post #81
ycombinete wrote: post #56

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The correct term for these means is "less-lethal".

Also, it’s literally a war crime to use tear gas on the battlefield, yet it’s somehow OK to use it on civilians. (I understand part of the reason is to prevent a slippery slope from tear gas to chlorine, but it’s still telling.)

> it’s literally a war crime to use tear gas on the battlefield

Chemical weapons are banned because they’re useless for a modern military [1].

[1] https://acoup.blog/2020/03/20/collections-why-dont-we-use-ch...

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