Start with a taxi lesson so you can move everywhere. Then a restaurant lesson so you can order from any menu at least the meals you like. Then a grocery shopping lesson. That'l cover 50% of your basic tourist needs. Then meeting people, elevator, bus, just remember the most important words 'sumimasen, onegaishimasu, kudasai, hajimemashite, arigato' and you'll be welcome everywhere you go.
Show HN: I'm making an open-source platform for learning Japanese
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Re: Show HN: I'm making an open-source platform for learning Japanese
#82Apps/platforms don't work for learning Japanese. You just need to memorize the hell out of the vocabulary, spend some time learning the grammar, and most importantly IMMERSE. Watch, read and listen to content in Japanese. https://learnjapanese.moe https://alljapanesealltheti.me/ (this used to be THE guide for learning)
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This is actually NOT recommended for a beginner. Writing and speaking are effective at establishing long term memories, it's why we do it for other things, but a language learning beginner has no idea if what they're writing makes sense or if there's any subtle mistakes in how they're pronouncing words or how they're putting them together, etc. Language learning experts don't recommend you start speaking/writing unle…
I'm sorry but this is one of the most incorrect things I have ever read. If I could downvote it twice I would. It's true that Japanese tend to be more strict about accurate production of phonology than many other language speakers but speaking and writing are huge enablers of becoming better. It's really not that hard to unlearn bad pronunciation especially in an immersive context. Also most Japanese have a tendency…
Also note that these are not barriers to being understood, but they are barriers to be fluent in the language. These people have lived in the US for 10+ years and communicate in english just fine, humans need very little language to communicate most things. But if they need to be taken seriously in jobs that require constant communication, becoming fluent should be a long term goal, and outputting early is bad. It's best to wait for 1-2 months until you get a grasp of sound and flow of the language.
Re: Show HN: I'm making an open-source platform for learning Japanese
#85I find that I learn much faster (and remember a word for longer) when I focus on writing, instead of just... look. And writing is something most apps just skip. Some apps do show the animation of the stroke orders, but I think the user needs to be proactively write it down somewhere to remember it better.
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And maybe talk to people in Japanese? And do some writing? Not just passive consumption.
This is actually NOT recommended for a beginner. Writing and speaking are effective at establishing long term memories, it's why we do it for other things, but a language learning beginner has no idea if what they're writing makes sense or if there's any subtle mistakes in how they're pronouncing words or how they're putting them together, etc. Language learning experts don't recommend you start speaking/writing unle…
Re: Show HN: I'm making an open-source platform for learning Japanese
#87Apps/platforms don't work for learning Japanese. You just need to memorize the hell out of the vocabulary, spend some time learning the grammar, and most importantly IMMERSE. Watch, read and listen to content in Japanese. https://learnjapanese.moe https://alljapanesealltheti.me/ (this used to be THE guide for learning)
I remember reading everything from this guide almost 15 years ago, and remembered it really did help
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I'm sorry but this is one of the most incorrect things I have ever read. If I could downvote it twice I would. It's true that Japanese tend to be more strict about accurate production of phonology than many other language speakers but speaking and writing are huge enablers of becoming better. It's really not that hard to unlearn bad pronunciation especially in an immersive context. Also most Japanese have a tendency…
Fixing a bad habit is very hard, and I clearly stated it that outputting is very helpful, but you need to be constantly corrected or you'll develop bad habits that are very hard to fix. I'm not a native english speaker and I'm in a community of immigrants in the US and most of them have developed very bad habits that are fixable, but would require major effort and time on their part. The main ones being that they do…
Re: Show HN: I'm making an open-source platform for learning Japanese
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Every language course I’ve taken has involved has some active production of language. Day 1 of my Japanese class in HS was introducing ourselves to one another. Language exams also require proof of correct and accurate production of language. Do you have any citations for the idea that it’s better not to practice actually using the language while trying to learn it?
This is the primary researcher behind the input hypothesis. [1] 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Krashen