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Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by lock1 »

everyone wrote: post #35
lock1 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most people on earth should be using Linux I don't think the current state of the Linux desktop is ready for that. Linux desktop still loves to show its sharp edges from time to time. Sure, I do also think most of Windows stuff now "just works" on Linux; Proton & Wine already cover a lot of "Windows-only" app I need and I only boot to Windows when I need to change some proprietary driver config. However, I think "j…

What would a normal person need to open terminal for though? In my recent experience with Mint I never needed it for anything normal.. eg wifi and bluetooth on laptop all just worked perfectly after install.. for installing software there is a gUI app store type thing.. for games u just install steam and it works exactly like on windows.

Installing stuff with your package manager?

In my experience, it's still quite annoying and fragmented in Linux desktop to install stuff here. GUIs like KDE Discover exist, but sometimes it doesn't do the things I expect them to do. For example Wine. Last week I tried to install it from Discover but it doesn't work like expected for apps I need. After figuring things out, it was some kind of regression bug, and I had to open a terminal to install the version I needed.

Games, sure. I think Steam + Proton does a very good job making things seamless; you don't even need to do anything other than press the install button on your library. This is what I expect if you try to sell Linux to the general population.

Drivers, it's kind of a mixed bag. I've had some bad experiences with Nvidia drivers lately, and it just got fixed in the latest patch. Proprietary drivers also rarely support Linux distros. It might be useless, but some people might find their RGB mouse and peripherals not working anymore to be a dealbreaker.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by xandrius »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #24

Microsoft should create a new windows option in addition to Home, Professional and Pro and call this one "Windows OPTIMAL" They can price this 3x if they want but it has 0 bloatware, 0 telemetry or atleast everything can be disabled at the time of installation. It is literally windows designed from the ground up for maximum performance, runs as smooth as windows 7 or xp used to back in the good old days

Already exists, just not to the normies.

IoT LTSC.

Works like a charm and no bloat.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by tonyhart7 »

Moru wrote: post #21
tonyhart7 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows" I don't know why you must come conclusion at this point, no one force you to upgrade into next version as far as I know, when you buy windows 10 license, you tied into certain edition that would work for that edition. nothing mention next OS (in this case windows11) should backward compati…

Windows has always been backward compatible with old hardware. There has never been a big problem where you couldn't just upgrade to next version on the same computer. This big jump is not a good one for MS, it is locking out a lot of people that would be customers and are now getting Linux Mint instead. I have several friends that are non-techies and installed Mint on their own without any problems. No support neede…

"Windows has always been backward compatible with old hardware."

mac os always have been backward compatible with old intel hardware, nothing changes or stopping you to still use your old intel mac either

"Sooner or later that will be gaming on Linux and Windows never get booted again."

that never gonna happen

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by nhinck3 »

incone123 wrote: post #48
lock1 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most people on earth should be using Linux I don't think the current state of the Linux desktop is ready for that. Linux desktop still loves to show its sharp edges from time to time. Sure, I do also think most of Windows stuff now "just works" on Linux; Proton & Wine already cover a lot of "Windows-only" app I need and I only boot to Windows when I need to change some proprietary driver config. However, I think "j…

Work issued me a Windows 11 laptop and even clicking on a window in the task bar does not reliably bring it to the front. There's sharp edges and there's wtf

Windows 11 can't even reliably work out how big a maximised window should be, forcing me to have to restart explorer multiple times a day.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by closetkantian »

xandrius wrote: post #52
vivzkestrel wrote: post #24

Microsoft should create a new windows option in addition to Home, Professional and Pro and call this one "Windows OPTIMAL" They can price this 3x if they want but it has 0 bloatware, 0 telemetry or atleast everything can be disabled at the time of installation. It is literally windows designed from the ground up for maximum performance, runs as smooth as windows 7 or xp used to back in the good old days

Already exists, just not to the normies. IoT LTSC. Works like a charm and no bloat.

Can I run this on my laptop?

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by lock1 »

incone123 wrote: post #48
lock1 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most people on earth should be using Linux I don't think the current state of the Linux desktop is ready for that. Linux desktop still loves to show its sharp edges from time to time. Sure, I do also think most of Windows stuff now "just works" on Linux; Proton & Wine already cover a lot of "Windows-only" app I need and I only boot to Windows when I need to change some proprietary driver config. However, I think "j…

Work issued me a Windows 11 laptop and even clicking on a window in the task bar does not reliably bring it to the front. There's sharp edges and there's wtf

Yeah, sure, I have a fair share of complaints on Windows too. Since Win XP, I think there has always been some kind of jank around Windows auto-hide taskbar, and it still persists on Win 11 which irritates me quite a lot.

Closed-source doesn't help for a poweruser; I'm fine with fiddling around with the code or config, just give me the code and manpages.

But again, my argument is that all of this is not applicable for the general population. Excluding loud internet forums, people seem fine sacrificing this kind of jank behavior as long as it doesn't interfere with their task that much.

I think Apple's recent Liquid Glass is a kind of stupid attempt to try to copy Win Vista-7 Aero style with terrible execution. But as long as it still allows Apple users do their things, I don't think they're going to switch to Linux just for customization.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by PhilipRoman »

anal_reactor wrote: post #39
everyone wrote: post #5

Im assuming MS will always have one secret good version of windows for enterprise? Eg. I have Win 10 LTSC 2021 which runs out in 2032.. I assume when that runs out there will be some replacement good version of windows? I also installed Linux Mint which I am trying to do as much as possible on. Its really fantastic, its crazy how it "just works".. The most intuitive and user friendly OS ive ever used.. I just do a lo…

I've said this once because we've already had discussions "Windows bad", but I jumped ship too. My experience is different though. I installed Linux Mint - it doesn't work and it won't work. Quick search shows that Fedora KDE is the only distribution that actually supports graphics stack from current century, and doesn't have community drama around it (Ubuntu). I installed it. I keep running into weird issues like gr…

Ironically the more "user friendly" a distro is, the more issues I seem to have with it. I'm running Arch with a window manager, the only issue I ever had was a kernel regression, after which I switched to LTS.

Meanwhile whenever I had to deal with Ubuntu or other such distros, I keep getting issues in the most basic functionality even on fresh installs. Can't launch firefox, random non descriptive errors from package updates, poor device support...

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by SSLy »

whyoh wrote: post #13
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #3

I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows. What are we supposed to do with all that e-waste?! People who spent thousands on a 32 core threadripper fro…

>dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old Isn't it only 2017 CPUs and older? So that's at least ~9 years of free updates (free updates stop at the end of 2026 with the extension), which is frankly better than most other OSs. If you include paid ESU updates it's at least ~11 years and if you include LTSC it's even way longer than that. There are many things we can complain about when it comes to Windows…

> Isn't it only 2017 CPUs and older?

MSFT lies to our face about not supporting Kaby Lake, except the one single CPU that was sold in Surfaces when W11 was announced. What an coincidence.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by fruitworks »

NexRebular wrote: post #45
999900000999 wrote: post #40

Ubuntu. Fedora. Arch. Open Suse . Pick one, stop trying to make Windows look like a decent os. My local Windows install just gave up. I'm very close to trying Windows 11 in a VM on top of Fedora or whatever, can't really do that on my 16gb ram value laptop though. If Maschine offered official Linux support, that's what I make music with, I'd be 100% Windows free.

Or if you'd prefer not to contribute to linux monoculturalization, FreeBSD is available in addition to the other BSD variants and even illumos-based systems.

I prefer to contriubute to linux monoculturization

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by WithinReason »

xandrius wrote: post #52
vivzkestrel wrote: post #24

Microsoft should create a new windows option in addition to Home, Professional and Pro and call this one "Windows OPTIMAL" They can price this 3x if they want but it has 0 bloatware, 0 telemetry or atleast everything can be disabled at the time of installation. It is literally windows designed from the ground up for maximum performance, runs as smooth as windows 7 or xp used to back in the good old days

Already exists, just not to the normies. IoT LTSC. Works like a charm and no bloat.

It will also miss feature upgrades and so can be slower than the main distribution. It's probably fine if you don't play games.
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