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Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by Aurornis »

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #3

I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows. What are we supposed to do with all that e-waste?! People who spent thousands on a 32 core threadripper fro…

If you’re talking about Threadripper 2000 series, just grab the official ISO and install it. Should work despite not being on the officially fully supported list.

> I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old.

There is no law that requires a company to make their new product compatible with a different company’s 7 year old hardware. I don’t know why you’d expect this to become a lawsuit or federal investigation.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by magic_hamster »

everyone wrote: post #5

Im assuming MS will always have one secret good version of windows for enterprise? Eg. I have Win 10 LTSC 2021 which runs out in 2032.. I assume when that runs out there will be some replacement good version of windows? I also installed Linux Mint which I am trying to do as much as possible on. Its really fantastic, its crazy how it "just works".. The most intuitive and user friendly OS ive ever used.. I just do a lo…

Mint is in a good place right now. I enjoy it immensely on most of my daily devices. Still stuck with MacOS for work which I lament.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by whyoh »

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #3

I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows. What are we supposed to do with all that e-waste?! People who spent thousands on a 32 core threadripper fro…

>dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old

Isn't it only 2017 CPUs and older? So that's at least ~9 years of free updates (free updates stop at the end of 2026 with the extension), which is frankly better than most other OSs.

If you include paid ESU updates it's at least ~11 years and if you include LTSC it's even way longer than that.

There are many things we can complain about when it comes to Windows, but I wouldn't say long term support is one of them. It's generally better than macOS or Linux distros, not to mention smartphones.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by troupo »

whyoh wrote: post #13
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #3

I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows. What are we supposed to do with all that e-waste?! People who spent thousands on a 32 core threadripper fro…

>dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old Isn't it only 2017 CPUs and older? So that's at least ~9 years of free updates (free updates stop at the end of 2026 with the extension), which is frankly better than most other OSs. If you include paid ESU updates it's at least ~11 years and if you include LTSC it's even way longer than that. There are many things we can complain about when it comes to Windows…

> Isn't it only 2017 CPUs and older? So that's at least ~9 years of free updates (free updates stop at the end of 2026 with the extension), which is frankly better than most other OSs.

That's the indictment of the industry, not a praise for Microsoft.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by tonyhart7 »

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #3

I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows. What are we supposed to do with all that e-waste?! People who spent thousands on a 32 core threadripper fro…

"Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows"

I don't know why you must come conclusion at this point, no one force you to upgrade into next version

as far as I know, when you buy windows 10 license, you tied into certain edition that would work for that edition. nothing mention next OS (in this case windows11) should backward compatible with last edition

if you think 7-8 years is bad, think how much smartphone that not receive update for years, most often that this phone didn't receive update at all

and google and apple literally making new edition of android/ios that break depedency every year

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by [deleted] »

Aurornis wrote: post #11
ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #3

I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows. What are we supposed to do with all that e-waste?! People who spent thousands on a 32 core threadripper fro…

If you’re talking about Threadripper 2000 series, just grab the official ISO and install it. Should work despite not being on the officially fully supported list. > I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. There is no law that requires a company to make their new product compa…

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Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by guilamu »

everyone wrote: post #5

Im assuming MS will always have one secret good version of windows for enterprise? Eg. I have Win 10 LTSC 2021 which runs out in 2032.. I assume when that runs out there will be some replacement good version of windows? I also installed Linux Mint which I am trying to do as much as possible on. Its really fantastic, its crazy how it "just works".. The most intuitive and user friendly OS ive ever used.. I just do a lo…

The new 'good' (more like less worst) version of Windows is Windows 11 iot ltsc. It's as clean as windows 11 gets (https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links#differences-between...).

Still, I've been using computers for 30 years and I'm starting to feel the itch to look for Linux alternatives and I'm pretty old. Change does do not comes easily to old people. This is bad for ms.

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by lloydatkinson »

ChrisNorstrom wrote: post #3

I'm honestly still shocked there isn't some kind of lawsuit or federal investigation on how Microsoft is able to get away with dropping support for CPUs that are only a few years old. Thus forcing unknown millions of people worldwide to upgrade an ENTIRE CPU and Motherboard just for the next version of Windows. What are we supposed to do with all that e-waste?! People who spent thousands on a 32 core threadripper fro…

Haven’t seen anyone mention it yet but 11 runs perfectly fine on older provided your CPU has POPCNT - which apparently was introduced in 2008.

Rufus can create a bootable USB drive with the 11 installer modified* to bypass the other artificial requirements like TPM and bypass the stupid “need internet access to force you to make a Microsoft account” requirement too.

https://rufus.ie/en/

*change some flags in the installer

Re: Unofficial Windows 11 requirements bypass tool allows disabling all AI features

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Post by picafrost »

There is something so fundamentally gross about Microsoft's vision of what role an operating system should serve. That there is an aftermarket of software that attempts to disable (but cannot remove!) the invasive dark patterns is alarming enough, but Microsoft may simply just... undo that, with the next unstoppable update.

Then again, this is the company that answered complaints about Windows being bad for development by embedding an OS that is good for development and calling that an innovation rather than an acknowledgement that Windows is bad.

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