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Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Ibuprofen is NSAID (non steroid anti inflammatory), oaracetamol is not. Related but different.

As long as autism, there can be no causative link. Millions have autism, billions take paracetamol. Autism has, like its cousin schizophrenia, a strong genetic-familial basis. Hardly any environmental factor increases the risk so much to be worrisome.

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Yeah my wife is also pregnant and sometimes it is really tough on her but she doesn't use any medication other than baby aspirin for blood pressure. The alternative is exercise, anti-inflammatory foods, and also realizing that it isn't just your body anymore and you can't hurt somebody else's chances for a very small amount of pain relief.

This is like saying "The risk of a traffic accident on the way to the hospital is unacceptable so I'll make her walk 12 miles to the hospital." Walking 12 miles is not only uncomfortable, it is also higher risk to Mom and baby than driving. You have to balance all the risks and benefits.

Right. And the benefits for tylenol are small.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Yes? Those definitely were words I used to mock the article/RFK... Do you have anything to add about toxic levels of acetaminophen?

Like most medications - follow the instructions on the bottle and you’ll be fine. No need to satanize it.

Most medications have a buffer, so if you accidentally take an extra dose (instead of just 2 pills every 6 hours, but no more than 6 in a 48 hour period). Acetaminophen does not have that buffer. Even just slightly over the dosing recommendations can be lethal, and for a drug that's in hundreds of products, that's terrifying. Imo you're being exceptionally careless for one of the most dangerous OTC drugs we have available.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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There really are risks. It's just not worth it during pregnancy. The pain killing effects of tylenol aren't worth the potential risks during pregnancy. https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2025/mount-sinai-s...

You can't look at just one risk and say it's not worth it. Like everything else in life, you must weigh all the risks and benefits. Untreated fever also carries real risks - neural tube defects, congenital heart defects, orofacial clefts, miscarriage. You need to treat fever, and NSAIDS have greater risks than acetaminophen. It's irrational to let a minuscule and unproven risk dominate the decision when the other sid…

I didn't mean to say it should never be taken. Sometimes medicines should be taken that have risks for the baby. But it shouldn't be taken for minor headaches and aches and pains like it can be when not pregnant.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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It is the safest painkiller currently available. Ibuprofen can cause gut bleeding and renal issues if overdosed on. We all know about opiates. Some facts - typical adult dose is 1g. Max suggested cap on the drug label is 3g per day (about 6 pills at usual 500mg dose). You need to take 10g (20 pills) to be at real risk of hepatotoxicity. So 10 times the typical dose is when you have overdose effects. (basically 20 pil…

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I'm not sure "the press manufactured consent for never-ending COVID reinfections" so much as people figured it would become another cold like the other four coronaviruses, regardless of what anyone wants.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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So now that we're all terrified that one of our various pharmaceuticals might, hypothetically cause an increased chance of autism, we have to take them all off the market and do extensive testing of absolutely everything? All the painkillers, blood pressure medicines, immunosuppressants for transplant patients, antipsychotics and antiseizure meds—everything? Surely you understand that that makes no sense at all? All…

We are not talking about medicines, we are talking about some that is frequently ingested/exposed to people. Things like plastics, additives, pesticides, EM signal. These are novel chemicals/radiation and are potentially slow toxins and showing a causal link from population studies is near impossible.

....nnno?

We are primarily talking about Tylenol. Paracetamol. Acetaminophen.

Perhaps you need to be reminded of the whole sentence you quoted from my post, rather than just the first subclause?

> Until there are reputable studies that can actually show something resembling a causal link, getting angry at the medical community, pharmaceutical manufacturers, or vaccine makes for saying they are not responsible is pointless and counterproductive.

The post I was replying to originally was specifically saying that the medical community needed to be accepting blame for causing autism.

This is bullshit. We do not know what causes autism. We certainly do not have any compelling evidence that anything the medical community is doing is causing autism.

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Like most medications - follow the instructions on the bottle and you’ll be fine. No need to satanize it.

Most medications have a buffer, so if you accidentally take an extra dose (instead of just 2 pills every 6 hours, but no more than 6 in a 48 hour period). Acetaminophen does not have that buffer. Even just slightly over the dosing recommendations can be lethal, and for a drug that's in hundreds of products, that's terrifying. Imo you're being exceptionally careless for one of the most dangerous OTC drugs we have avai…

How is following the instructions being “exceptionally careless”?

It’s like using bleach to whiten clothes. The bottle says “do not drink”. I don’t drink it, I’m fine. If I misuse it, I’m toast, like with any other myriad household products that can kill you if you use them not as directed.

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I'm not sure "the press manufactured consent for never-ending COVID reinfections" so much as people figured it would become another cold like the other four coronaviruses, regardless of what anyone wants.

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