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Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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It is the safest painkiller currently available. Ibuprofen can cause gut bleeding and renal issues if overdosed on. We all know about opiates. Some facts - typical adult dose is 1g. Max suggested cap on the drug label is 3g per day (about 6 pills at usual 500mg dose). You need to take 10g (20 pills) to be at real risk of hepatotoxicity. So 10 times the typical dose is when you have overdose effects. (basically 20 pil…

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Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Do they? Or is it, perhaps, possible that, if there is indeed a real increase in the rate of autism, it's because of something that has nothing to do with our modern pharmaceuticals? Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods? Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere? Until there are reputable stu…

>Until there are reputable studies that can actually show something resembling a causal link, Wrong approach. You prove that something is safe first (and there are ways to do it, one has to creative though) and then have people use it. One does not introduce something in the population and then trying to prove a causal link through stats. There are too many variable and it becomes easy to pass the buck by massaging n…

> You prove that something is safe first (and there are ways to do it, one has to creative though) and then have people use it

Acetaminophen is better studied than like 99% of foods and supplements.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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“May or may not cause autism”.

Yes? Those definitely were words I used to mock the article/RFK... Do you have anything to add about toxic levels of acetaminophen?

Like most medications - follow the instructions on the bottle and you’ll be fine. No need to satanize it.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Stresses the liver, also if its used frequently for mild inconveniences you should maybe go to the doctor, as frequent headaches or stuff like that can hint to more severe stuff.

It does not stress the liver at recommended doses. Plenty of people get frequent headaches and other aches that have no other severe stuff going on, or really anything that needs to be treated more than symptomatically. Scheduled tylenol is an effective element of a pain regimen for many people.

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Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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There really are risks. It's just not worth it during pregnancy. The pain killing effects of tylenol aren't worth the potential risks during pregnancy. https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2025/mount-sinai-s...

You can't look at just one risk and say it's not worth it.

Like everything else in life, you must weigh all the risks and benefits.

Untreated fever also carries real risks - neural tube defects, congenital heart defects, orofacial clefts, miscarriage.

You need to treat fever, and NSAIDS have greater risks than acetaminophen.

It's irrational to let a minuscule and unproven risk dominate the decision when the other side of the balance has more evidence of larger risks to weigh.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Was replying to a commented which was downvoted to death entirely unfairly, so I'll paste my reply as a new comment: Paracetamol/acetaminophen (the active ingredient in tylenol) is super toxic to the liver. Lots of people overdose on it, some by accident and some deliberately. As little as FOUR GRAMS can cause jaundice and fuck up your liver. If you have a fever, taking 1 gram every couple of hours might seem entirel…

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>Even if RFK Jr. provides ironclad scientific proof of this link they'll just deny it.

As far as I know he is really well read/informed - most people are not in that league and such people are completely dismissive of anything that is counter-narrative.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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>Until there are reputable studies that can actually show something resembling a causal link, Wrong approach. You prove that something is safe first (and there are ways to do it, one has to creative though) and then have people use it. One does not introduce something in the population and then trying to prove a causal link through stats. There are too many variable and it becomes easy to pass the buck by massaging n…

So now that we're all terrified that one of our various pharmaceuticals might, hypothetically cause an increased chance of autism, we have to take them all off the market and do extensive testing of absolutely everything? All the painkillers, blood pressure medicines, immunosuppressants for transplant patients, antipsychotics and antiseizure meds—everything? Surely you understand that that makes no sense at all? All…

We are not talking about medicines, we are talking about some that is frequently ingested/exposed to people. Things like plastics, additives, pesticides, EM signal. These are novel chemicals/radiation and are potentially slow toxins and showing a causal link from population studies is near impossible.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Don’t you wish we have a short sell reporting data so we can check if people in the know already shorted the stock?

If it's already in the news, it's already too late to short. News events tend to quickly reverse as well so I'd be looking for a long position at a support level

he's talking about the person who created the news...

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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What’s the alternative? Pregnant people are people too. They can’t take Ibuprofen, or opioids, or even Tylenol now.

Yeah my wife is also pregnant and sometimes it is really tough on her but she doesn't use any medication other than baby aspirin for blood pressure. The alternative is exercise, anti-inflammatory foods, and also realizing that it isn't just your body anymore and you can't hurt somebody else's chances for a very small amount of pain relief.

This is like saying "The risk of a traffic accident on the way to the hospital is unacceptable so I'll make her walk 12 miles to the hospital."

Walking 12 miles is not only uncomfortable, it is also higher risk to Mom and baby than driving.

You have to balance all the risks and benefits.

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