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Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Maybe I never take enough but it's also such a weak painkiller that I always prefer to just feel how it feels and sense if I'm getting better or worse. And that is without believing it's super bad for me, just doesn't make sense as a trade-off.

Some times advil works. Some times aspirin works. Some times Tylenol works. Some times none of them work. There’s all kinds of substances that are available freely that can kill you if you take too much. NSAIDS, Imodium, DXM, iron supplements.

Water. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication Meat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_toxicity

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Don’t you wish we have a short sell reporting data so we can check if people in the know already shorted the stock?

Unusual whales does a lot of reporting of this nature.

One could also take a look at pages like cheddar which track what they claim is unusual flow in options.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Why are doctors telling women that it's okay to take Tylenol during pregnancy in the first place? Everything they put in their bodies can have an effect on the baby so medication for pregnant mothers should be severely limited. Why haven't we learned from the Thalidomide scandal?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal

Tylenol only helps for minor aches and pains that frankly, pregnant mothers should just deal with for the good of their unborn child. The risk is not worth it.

RFK Jr. isn't right on everything, but he's not wrong on everything either and it's refreshing seeing someone head HHS that isn't in big pharma's pocket for a change.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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It is the safest painkiller currently available. Ibuprofen can cause gut bleeding and renal issues if overdosed on. We all know about opiates. Some facts - typical adult dose is 1g. Max suggested cap on the drug label is 3g per day (about 6 pills at usual 500mg dose). You need to take 10g (20 pills) to be at real risk of hepatotoxicity.

So 10 times the typical dose is when you have overdose effects. (basically 20 pills per day vs 2 pills per day).

Not your "wildly unsafe at slightly above usage levels" AT ALL (as someone posted on here)

This is not harmless - this might cause someone to take more dangerous painkillers when acetaminophen (tylenol) might have safely helped them. The autism stuff is plainly false and disproved.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Was replying to a commented which was downvoted to death entirely unfairly, so I'll paste my reply as a new comment: Paracetamol/acetaminophen (the active ingredient in tylenol) is super toxic to the liver. Lots of people overdose on it, some by accident and some deliberately. As little as FOUR GRAMS can cause jaundice and fuck up your liver. If you have a fever, taking 1 gram every couple of hours might seem entirel…

Taking one gram every 5-6 hours for a maximum of 4 gram/day IS entirely reasonable.

I don't know how you jumped from "it's dangerous to take in to high amounts, even 4 times the recommended dose is dangerous" to "the recommened dose is dangerous".

When taken correctly it is very safe and had fewer side effects then NSAIDs like ibuprofen.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Was replying to a commented which was downvoted to death entirely unfairly, so I'll paste my reply as a new comment: Paracetamol/acetaminophen (the active ingredient in tylenol) is super toxic to the liver. Lots of people overdose on it, some by accident and some deliberately. As little as FOUR GRAMS can cause jaundice and fuck up your liver. If you have a fever, taking 1 gram every couple of hours might seem entirel…

I don’t understand these responses.

A person in power makes unsubstantiated (and often disproven claims), and makes major decisions that affect all our lives based on those claims.

And the response ignores the fact that the people in power are making decisions based on complete nonsense and pointing to something fairly trivial that everyone knows about anyways.

I mean, I haven’t been to a doctor who hasn’t pointed out that there are limits to how much acetaminophen one can take. There’s a reason anything above a 650mg dose is prescription only. Theirs is a reason if you’re suffering from a severe fever doctors will give you both acetaminophen and ibuprofen and have you alternate them.

If there is a tiny minority that is apparently unaware of the fact that Tylenol in high doses can have adverse effects or at the very least not even aware of the fact that most medications need to be taken as prescribed or within the suggested limits, that’s a minuscule part of the problem relative to people in power making decisions based on unproven claims.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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You shoudln’t even be entertaining this lunacy with any response. Anything coming out of the RFK jr health department is batshit.

He was legitimately put into a position of power by the american political system. And this is an article by the BBC, probably the most respected news source on the planet. Crazy is now the norm, the leading voice. It must be confronted.

"legitimately" is a stretch, given all the information that has come fourth in the past year.

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Why are doctors telling women that it's okay to take Tylenol during pregnancy in the first place? Everything they put in their bodies can have an effect on the baby so medication for pregnant mothers should be severely limited. Why haven't we learned from the Thalidomide scandal? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide_scandal Tylenol only helps for minor aches and pains that frankly, pregnant mothers should just d…

Yeah, it’s refreshing seeing someone not in Big Pharma’s pocket.

Much better that he be in Big Wellness’s pocket which is an order of magnitude bigger, unregulated, and doesn’t need to provide evidence for their claims.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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I'm always surprised at the hostility to Acetaminophen on HN (or Paracetamol as we call it here in the UK).

It's one of the most commonly used medicines in the UK - and certainly the most popular painkiller.

YouGov even did a survey confirming that - https://ygo-assets-websites-editorial-emea.yougov.net/docume...

The safety aspects of it are not something that gets raised in the UK much - other than suicide attempts, which are going to happen no matter what medicine you use.

Probably the biggest risk comes from people not realising that other medicines (e.g. for cold and flu) often include it, so they double up on a dose.

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