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Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by epcoa »

zwnow wrote: post #104
daveoc64 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not?

Stresses the liver, also if its used frequently for mild inconveniences you should maybe go to the doctor, as frequent headaches or stuff like that can hint to more severe stuff.

It does not stress the liver at recommended doses. Plenty of people get frequent headaches and other aches that have no other severe stuff going on, or really anything that needs to be treated more than symptomatically. Scheduled tylenol is an effective element of a pain regimen for many people.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by viraptor »

maxerickson wrote: post #69
danaris wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they? Or is it, perhaps, possible that, if there is indeed a real increase in the rate of autism, it's because of something that has nothing to do with our modern pharmaceuticals? Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods? Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere? Until there are reputable stu…

There is far less environmental contamination now than there was in 1970. And modern agriculture practices result in lower amounts of less toxic substances in the food supply.

This doesn't really average. There's less lead, but more micro plastics for example. There less cadmium, but more pesticides. Etc.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by alchemist1e9 »

forgotoldacc wrote: post #86
alchemist1e9 wrote: post #59

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Does RFK Jr have a track recording of winning his cases or losing them?

Whether he wins or loses is irrelevant. This administration has a track record of ignoring judgements they don't like and facing zero consequences.

His prior legal track record has no relevance to his current work?

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by yareally »

aynyc wrote: post #71

Don’t you wish we have a short sell reporting data so we can check if people in the know already shorted the stock?

If it's already in the news, it's already too late to short. News events tend to quickly reverse as well so I'd be looking for a long position at a support level

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by danaris »

dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #107
danaris wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they? Or is it, perhaps, possible that, if there is indeed a real increase in the rate of autism, it's because of something that has nothing to do with our modern pharmaceuticals? Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods? Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere? Until there are reputable stu…

>Until there are reputable studies that can actually show something resembling a causal link, Wrong approach. You prove that something is safe first (and there are ways to do it, one has to creative though) and then have people use it. One does not introduce something in the population and then trying to prove a causal link through stats. There are too many variable and it becomes easy to pass the buck by massaging n…

So now that we're all terrified that one of our various pharmaceuticals might, hypothetically cause an increased chance of autism, we have to take them all off the market and do extensive testing of absolutely everything? All the painkillers, blood pressure medicines, immunosuppressants for transplant patients, antipsychotics and antiseizure meds—everything?

Surely you understand that that makes no sense at all? All of these medicines have already been tested and shown to be safe, based on the science and understanding of the time. That's why they're on the market in the first place.

For better or for worse, the burden of proof is now on those who want to show that they are dangerous.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by danaris »

wtcactus wrote: post #105
danaris wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they? Or is it, perhaps, possible that, if there is indeed a real increase in the rate of autism, it's because of something that has nothing to do with our modern pharmaceuticals? Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods? Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere? Until there are reputable stu…

“Could it perhaps be related to the increases in various kinds of air pollution? Water pollution? Pesticides or herbicides in our foods?” The West is on a decreasing trend of all those kind of pollution since the 70s. “Or even the dramatic increase in EM signals being broadcast everywhere?”. It’s funny people are entertaining the hypothesis that EM radiation causes autism in the same conversation where they are tryin…

To be clear, I don't think that's a likely factor. I mention it merely because it is one of the dozens of factors that have changed over the past few decades that have nothing to do with the pharmaceutical industry.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by danaris »

alchemist1e9 wrote: post #123
forgotoldacc wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether he wins or loses is irrelevant. This administration has a track record of ignoring judgements they don't like and facing zero consequences.

His prior legal track record has no relevance to his current work?

No, because, as forgotoldacc points out, Trump is going to just keep doing whatever he wants regardless, and he wasn't appointed based on actual expertise or prior success: he was appointed because he validates the biases of Trump's base.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by threatofrain »

syntaxing wrote: post #113
protonbob wrote: post #85

There really are risks. It's just not worth it during pregnancy. The pain killing effects of tylenol aren't worth the potential risks during pregnancy. https://www.mountsinai.org/about/newsroom/2025/mount-sinai-s...

What’s the alternative? Pregnant people are people too. They can’t take Ibuprofen, or opioids, or even Tylenol now.

Honestly I wouldn't know if it'd make a difference. The magnitude of pain relief we're talking about is puny.

Re: Kenvue stock drops on report RFK Jr will link autism to Tylenol during pregnancy

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Post by dennis_jeeves2 »

epcoa wrote: post #111
dennis_jeeves2 wrote: post #88

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>Paracetamol/acetaminophen (the active ingredient in tylenol) is super toxic to the liver This is very true. ( and no, he is not exaggerating)

Tylenol itself is not toxic to the liver, the metabolite of glucuronidation is what is toxic. Which means paradoxically impaired liver function can actually reduce the effective toxicity of Tylenol.

Fair enough.
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