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4. America is a giant land mass and Americans want 500 miles of range when most countries are ok with 200.
Most Americans don’t drive anywhere near that far.
anecdotally i had a 2011 Nissan Leaf 1st year it came out. Was neat. I have not gone back to electric. I sold it for $800 with 90k miles on it.
Throw in: Unwilling or unable to build out the charger network. No power for EV’s as it’s going to crypto and ai. And to aluminum smelting. And to heating the northern states. And to cooling the southern ones. And losing the energy from wind, solar and geothermal. Maybe nuclear as I don’t know where the guy stands on that.
This is definitely what consumers think about when making a ourchasing decision. You can't go more than a couple of miles in a populated area without seeing a gas station. Charger stations on the other hand are few and far in between, and take much longer than a gas refill does. Gas prices are also a major economic indicator in people's minds. They have an idea of what the per gallon cost "should" be, and how much it…
This trend has always been wild to me. The USA feels like a solid home of automaking since the inception of the ICE. They don't necessarily make the best cars but they have the infrastructure, knowledge & experience, and culture to innovate and drive the industry forward. The next big generational change in car design matures to commercial viability - the electric motor for cars - and the USA turns it into a bogeyman…
There’s too much regulation here to compete. Drones are all Chinese too because of all the FAA restrictions on the technology. For EVs, there were the EV mandates, and there are several restrictions on mining the rare earth metals here like lithium and cobalt that China does not do. Also, the US is physically very large and spread out, with more long distance driving, which plays more into an ice vehicle’s advantages…
The reason why EVs suck in the US comes down to high electric prices, scarce charging points, and the level to which EVs tend to be locked down and unrepairable.
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> Here's mine, Saudi Arabia is by far the largest exporter: I think it's not unreasonable to think that "producer" means "producer", not "exporter". Wikipedia has a nominally matching article [0], which indeed lists the US as the largest producer of crude oil and lease condensate. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_produ...
Perhaps it is unreasonable to conflate production and export in a discussion about the "strange" decision making of domestic industry players...?
EVs are having their own little dotcom bust right now. You can't say the companies didn't try. Every automaker came out with a near identical EV that was too expensive. And some even made some pretty bold steps to stop ICE production on some models. EVs are still inevitable in the not too distant future so long as batteries keep improving, but the jump is not going to happen overnight.
They need to have a true 500 mile range, even at low ambient temperatures. I live in MN; winters are fucking brutal on EVs and their already inflated estimated ranges.
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> Many gas cars don’t have 500mi of range No but what they do have is the ability to pull into literally any Andy Griffith backwater town gas station and be on their way in 5 minutes. That makes their range nearly unlimited.
This need is a bit overstated. Keep in mind that unlikes a gas car you can charge up your EV at home. How regularly does the median American actually drive 300+ miles in a single day? The average American household has multiple cars - having at least one of them being a EV commuter appliance isn't that wild of an idea.
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> Many gas cars don’t have 500mi of range No but what they do have is the ability to pull into literally any Andy Griffith backwater town gas station and be on their way in 5 minutes. That makes their range nearly unlimited.
This need is a bit overstated. Keep in mind that unlikes a gas car you can charge up your EV at home. How regularly does the median American actually drive 300+ miles in a single day? The average American household has multiple cars - having at least one of them being a EV commuter appliance isn't that wild of an idea.
So; to answer your question: how often do I drive 300+ miles in a day? 2x a week for 1/4 of the year.
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> Many gas cars don’t have 500mi of range No but what they do have is the ability to pull into literally any Andy Griffith backwater town gas station and be on their way in 5 minutes. That makes their range nearly unlimited.
This need is a bit overstated. Keep in mind that unlikes a gas car you can charge up your EV at home. How regularly does the median American actually drive 300+ miles in a single day? The average American household has multiple cars - having at least one of them being a EV commuter appliance isn't that wild of an idea.
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This need is a bit overstated. Keep in mind that unlikes a gas car you can charge up your EV at home. How regularly does the median American actually drive 300+ miles in a single day? The average American household has multiple cars - having at least one of them being a EV commuter appliance isn't that wild of an idea.
I work from home and honestly might use a tank of gas a month; I also only own one vehicle. However, I do have a vacation home where I drive to/from every week from June to September and it does not have currently have the level of electric service, nor availability of charging infrastructure nearby, to allow for me to charge an EV w/o driving 25+ miles each way. So; to answer your question: how often do I drive 300+…
Also, your anecdote is certainly not the plethora of people in America. The vast majority of folks take maybe one vacation a year, if that, and certainly don’t own a vacation home.