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The US is effectively withdrawing from world markets. This is profound and hard to believe --- because it is just plain dumb. China loves it. It is total capitulation to their economic agenda. 25% of US GDP is derived from global trade. Turning your back on this will lower the standard of living for Americans in general by raising prices. Next up in this regression --- a default on US debt.
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> 1. US is the largest oil producer country in the world [citation needed] Here's mine, Saudi Arabia is by far the largest exporter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_expor... Perhaps you're confusing oil production with refined petroleum (e.g. gasoline) exports? Edit: Thanks for the correction, looks like for the last 8 or so years US has indeed occupied the top slot for production: https://en.w…
> Here's mine, Saudi Arabia is by far the largest exporter: I think it's not unreasonable to think that "producer" means "producer", not "exporter". Wikipedia has a nominally matching article [0], which indeed lists the US as the largest producer of crude oil and lease condensate. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_produ...
Many communities in Florida love electric golf carts. If the right vehicles are available at the right price with the right capabilities people buy them.
People could see this coming a mile away. The automakers, whom currently produce the vast majority of vehicles, are tired of financing their competition (Tesla), who for years now has sucked all the air out of the room in the auto industry, despite accounting for a small fraction of vehicle sales overall. The carbon credits are solely responsible for creating Tesla. They created an unfair environment where we have an…
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YOU are confusing crude oil production with exports. The US IS the largest oil producing country: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_oil_pro... The parent commenter is right. You are wrong. Do a little Google search before commenting.
They did do one, but the US only slid into top spot somewhat recently it looks like? Can avoid the hostility.
What's the most up to date research about ICE vs EV full life cycle "cleanness"?
Electric cars are the cleanest—and getting cleaner faster than expected
https://theicct.org/pr-electric-cars-getting-cleaner-faster/
USA:
A cradle-to-grave analysis from the University of Michigan has shown that battery electric vehicles have lower lifetime greenhouse gas emissions than internal combustion engine vehicles, hybrids and plug-in hybrids in every county in the contiguous U.S.
https://news.umich.edu/evs-reduce-climate-pollution-but-by-h...
It is hardly surprising given these facts: 1. US is the largest oil producer country in the world 2. US knows it has lost the EV race 3. ICE employees have an outsized impact on elections due to where they live
4. America is a giant land mass and Americans want 500 miles of range when most countries are ok with 200.
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They need to have a true 500 mile range, even at low ambient temperatures. I live in MN; winters are fucking brutal on EVs and their already inflated estimated ranges.
Why? Gas cars get much worse mileage in low temperatures too. Not as bad as EVs, but it is substantial. Many gas cars don’t have 500mi of range, certainly not in dead cold conditions. With the increase of density of fast charging infrastructure (which, is pretty much the only reason you need large ranges in EVs), you require less overall range between stops. What’s needed is access to at home charging infrastructure…
No but what they do have is the ability to pull into literally any Andy Griffith backwater town gas station and be on their way in 5 minutes. That makes their range nearly unlimited.
People could see this coming a mile away. The automakers, whom currently produce the vast majority of vehicles, are tired of financing their competition (Tesla), who for years now has sucked all the air out of the room in the auto industry, despite accounting for a small fraction of vehicle sales overall. The carbon credits are solely responsible for creating Tesla. They created an unfair environment where we have an…
>“ Electric vehicles have a dubious environmental impact, require special and costly new infrastructure, are inferior economically and do not align with US policy goals around energy.” Citations needed. Oil extraction is massively damaging, co2 is causing global weather turmoil, exhaust while better than the 70’s for passenger cars/trucks is still an air quality issue, noise pollution is worse for ice. And electric c…
"Objective" is reaching a bit. Loud? My last two ICE vehicles have sufficient cabin noise-dampening to the point that one of the manufacturers can actually pump engine noise into the cabin. Tire noise from EVs is more, typically as a factor of increased gross vehicle weight. Lag? Unless you are driving an ICE with a large turbo, what lag? And as the owner of an ICE that can accelerate 0-60 faster than consumer EVs with the exception of Tesla's Performance models (which it keeps pace with) and the Plaid, and who likes having a performant vehicle, I could count on one hand the number of times I've needed that level of acceleration. Regular Tesla Model 3 0-60 times of 5.6s is absolutely in the world of Audi (with multiple entry level models in the 5s range) and even Camry only half a second behind.
I like EVs, I've spent plenty of time in them and enjoy driving them.
But I think there's a certain irony that often those who squeal "ICE Luddite" seem to also hold views about ICE modernization that are more akin to a time capsule of "the last time I cared about ICE vehicles was 15 years ago, and I'm certain they haven't advanced an inch since then".
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Why? Gas cars get much worse mileage in low temperatures too. Not as bad as EVs, but it is substantial. Many gas cars don’t have 500mi of range, certainly not in dead cold conditions. With the increase of density of fast charging infrastructure (which, is pretty much the only reason you need large ranges in EVs), you require less overall range between stops. What’s needed is access to at home charging infrastructure…
> Many gas cars don’t have 500mi of range No but what they do have is the ability to pull into literally any Andy Griffith backwater town gas station and be on their way in 5 minutes. That makes their range nearly unlimited.
The average American household has multiple cars - having at least one of them being a EV commuter appliance isn't that wild of an idea.