141–150 of 292 posts
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Presumably by a journalist who doesn’t understand what market share is
Everybody else is telling you you're wrong and you're doubling down and insisting that respectable journals are morons who don't understand anything. You should stop, reflect on this fact for a moment, then go pick up a goddamn book
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Running a relay is not expensive anymore (it used to be), with recent changes it's about $30/mo. Running an AppView that ingests all ongoing Bluesky traffic (and puts it into database) is more expensive ($300/mo currently) but if you were happy with a partial view of the network, you could get it down by a lot.
> Running a relay is not expensive anymore [...] $30/mo is $360/yr, which for most people is a prohibitively large sum of money. That would make Bluesky access more expensive than even the most expensive Netflix subscription; closer to the cost of a cellular plan. For comparison: for my Mastodon account I pay $5/mo or $60/yr to a dedicated hosting provider. This puts it in the same ballpark as paying for a private em…
So we are not decentralized. Git was a good attempt, but it kind of got centralized around GitHub, GitLab, and other variants. BitTorrent was decentralized, except tracker sites were the natural centralization points. Bitcoin was also decentralized, but still had Coinbase and other sites. Even SMTP is de facto centralized due to the spam problem.
It's important to note that this isn't "you have to be big in order to be able to filter spam". That's not true at all; decentralized anti-spam lists have been a thing for decades and the big sites don't have any significant advantage in filtering spam.
It's allegedly that big sites will mark small sites as spam even when they're not, which makes it hard to run a small mail server. And there is some of that -- they also have a perverse incentive to do it on purpose because it kills their smaller competitors.
But it's also somewhat overstated. If you have a reverse DNS entry pointing back at your mail server and have properly configured DKIM, it's not inherently the case that you're always going to be marked as spam. And it's not inherently the case that you won't just because you use one of the big services -- they have the same incentive to do that to each other, after all.
Neat! I'm not surprised at the findings here. BlueSky (for the average user) is pretty much a drop in replacement for Twitter. Despite the smaller total numbers in Mastadon, it's great to see that the ecosystem seems to be successfully avoiding centralization like we've seen in the AT-Proto ecosystem. I suspect that the cost of running AT proto servers/relays is prohibitive for smaller players compared to a Mastadon…
ATProto also has the downside of being supported by a corporation and investors with various backgrounds that will eventually want to earn something out of it all and there is no telling how this will happen.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Running a relay is not expensive anymore (it used to be), with recent changes it's about $30/mo. Running an AppView that ingests all ongoing Bluesky traffic (and puts it into database) is more expensive ($300/mo currently) but if you were happy with a partial view of the network, you could get it down by a lot.
> Running a relay is not expensive anymore [...] $30/mo is $360/yr, which for most people is a prohibitively large sum of money. That would make Bluesky access more expensive than even the most expensive Netflix subscription; closer to the cost of a cellular plan. For comparison: for my Mastodon account I pay $5/mo or $60/yr to a dedicated hosting provider. This puts it in the same ballpark as paying for a private em…
It doesn't meaningfully make you "more independent" because all Relays are trivial (they're just dumb re-broadcasters of a stream) and it makes sense to use one run by somebody else — a company or a community that's pooling resources.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> BlueSky (for the average user) is pretty much a drop in replacement for Twitter. One reason Bluesky is so successful is because it doesn't shove decentralisation into the user's face like Mastodon does. The vast majority of people don't know what decentralisation is and don't care to. I think that far too much effort is put into decentralisation and not enough into good moderation on these platforms.
Moderation is definitely Fediverse’s weakness.
ATProto's Stacked Moderation is an interesting approach to combine platform, community, and user level choices
https://bsky.social/about/blog/03-12-2024-stackable-moderati...
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Running a PDS server for yourself and a few friends is not very expensive afaik, but there's also not much benefit to doing so, because the point of the PDS is to have a clean separation between your own data and the rest of the network. The expensive things in ATProto are the Relay (crawls/listens to PDSs to produce the firehose) and the AppView (keeps a DB of all posts/likes/etc to serve users' requests). Expensive…
> For a lot of stuff though ATProto is built in a way that you shouldn't have to host your own; you can implement your own algorithmic feed that reads from the Bluesky Relay's firehose, or your own frontend that still gets data from the Bluesky AppView. ATProto isn't "built this way". Twitter was also built in a way where you could implement your own stuff - and then Twitter took that away. With Mastodon, there is on…
I understand that Bluesky's conformance to ATProto is just a promise, but it's a better promise than you get from most websites. Also in the meantime, if you migrate to a self-hosted PDS, you can ensure that even if Bluesky restricts access to their Relay's firehose, 3rd party Relay servers can still pick up your posts and publish their own unrestricted firehose.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Presumably by a journalist who doesn’t understand what market share is
Everybody else is telling you you're wrong and you're doubling down and insisting that respectable journals are morons who don't understand anything. You should stop, reflect on this fact for a moment, then go pick up a goddamn book
Including Threads with Fediverse might have an interesting impact.