Earlier quoted context omitted.
I still maintain that we're not just a simulation, we're a screensaver on the computer of some extradimensional office worker who has been out of office for their version of a weekend.
You might like this: https://qntm.org/responsibilit
New interpretations suggest the "heat death" hypothesis might not hold (2023)
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Re: New interpretations suggest the "heat death" hypothesis might not hold (2023)
#32I never heard something like that. Gravity follows the first and second laws of thermodynamics.
Re: New interpretations suggest the "heat death" hypothesis might not hold (2023)
#33>>>>> Consciousness, creativity, love — all of these things are destined to disappear as the universe becomes increasingly disordered and dissolves into entropy. Those are evolved traits, and it seems more likely that evolution will replace them with some other traits within a time frame that will be like the blink of an eye compared to the projected decay of the universe.
They evolved for pretty strong reasons that have been around a lot longer than a blink of an eye. Namely, collaboration and creativity are extremely good survival strategies.
The only problem for earth life is that anything less intelligent than a human cannot leave the planet with significant chances of survival. Bacteria can however take a ride in our space probes and get a minuscule chance to colonize e.g. Mars [1].
What will go to the end of the universe is self-replicating robots. We have already made the first step in that direction with the AI that makes the headlines currently.
No art, no love, no dreams, just brute force.
[1] https://astrobiology.com/2022/12/planetary-protection-killin...
Re: New interpretations suggest the "heat death" hypothesis might not hold (2023)
#34As such, the second law appears to hold a chilling prophecy for humanity in the very long term. The idea that our species is so uniquely capable of transcending extinction and surviving long enough for the fate of the universe to be relevant to it is optimistic to the point of absurdity. It fits the evidence better to suppose that we're particularly capable of self destruction.
Edit: nevermind, I agree I misunderstood the parent comment. It's a common response to any interest in the destiny of humanity: "what's so special about humanity? What about bacteria, huh?" I don't know, I'm human and humans tend to be social and interested in their own species? Is that weird? Does that not apply to you? Do you consider it petty and parochial to be more interested in one's own species? Are you "above…
Re: New interpretations suggest the "heat death" hypothesis might not hold (2023)
#35As such, the second law appears to hold a chilling prophecy for humanity in the very long term. The idea that our species is so uniquely capable of transcending extinction and surviving long enough for the fate of the universe to be relevant to it is optimistic to the point of absurdity. It fits the evidence better to suppose that we're particularly capable of self destruction.
Re: New interpretations suggest the "heat death" hypothesis might not hold (2023)
#36Practically stars are mostly burned out in another 50 billion years and radioisotopes that produce a heat gradient will also be mostly decayed by then. Eventually good tidal energy situations like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_heating_of_Io will end as well since this kind of situation changes the orbits. So energy for life and usable thermal gradients will disappear even if entropy will continue to increase fo…
I've had plans for a sci-fi book I plan to never write that takes place in the ultra far future. The chapters' numbers would be the time dilation scale in a base 10 logarithm. The book would be made up of a series of short stories told from the point of view of a "time coast guard" rescuing idiots who refuse to time dilate from their creaking space hulks. A later (set?) of chapters might just be in the 90+ scale; at…
Re: New interpretations suggest the "heat death" hypothesis might not hold (2023)
#37Slightly tangential, but does anyone know of a good layman's book on thermodynamics? I'm interested in the science and the history of it, but I'm not really trying to do a deep dive into the math -- I wasn't bad in stats or calc but that was decades ago now and I haven't really used them since...
Four Laws That Do Not Drive The Universe, The: Elements Of Thermodynamics For The Curious And Intelligent
Re: New interpretations suggest the "heat death" hypothesis might not hold (2023)
#38As such, the second law appears to hold a chilling prophecy for humanity in the very long term. The idea that our species is so uniquely capable of transcending extinction and surviving long enough for the fate of the universe to be relevant to it is optimistic to the point of absurdity. It fits the evidence better to suppose that we're particularly capable of self destruction.
* - which is certainly a small sample
Re: New interpretations suggest the "heat death" hypothesis might not hold (2023)
#39If the laws of thermodynamics don’t apply does that mean we can build our perpetual motion machine?
Re: New interpretations suggest the "heat death" hypothesis might not hold (2023)
#40Practically stars are mostly burned out in another 50 billion years and radioisotopes that produce a heat gradient will also be mostly decayed by then. Eventually good tidal energy situations like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidal_heating_of_Io will end as well since this kind of situation changes the orbits. So energy for life and usable thermal gradients will disappear even if entropy will continue to increase fo…
I've had plans for a sci-fi book I plan to never write that takes place in the ultra far future. The chapters' numbers would be the time dilation scale in a base 10 logarithm. The book would be made up of a series of short stories told from the point of view of a "time coast guard" rescuing idiots who refuse to time dilate from their creaking space hulks. A later (set?) of chapters might just be in the 90+ scale; at…