AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

Post by lawlessone » Thu, Aug 28, 2025, 9:54 PM UTC

romeros1 wrote: post #94

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Sorry for not making my point clear. I'm arguing that the category of the problem matters a lot. Chess is, compared to self-driving cars and (in my opinion) programming, very limited in its rules, the fixed board size and the lack of "fog of war".

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it" ~ Upton Sinclair Your stance was the widely held stance not just on hacker news but also by the leading proponents of ai when chatgpt was first launched. A lot of people thought the hallucination aspect is something that simply can't be overcome. That LLMs were nothing but glorified stochastic parrots. Well, t…

Post by ACCount37 » Thu, Aug 28, 2025, 10:01 PM UTC

lawlessone wrote: post #145

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I think humans who think they can't be replaced by a next token predictor think too highly of themselves. LLMs show it plain and clear: there's no magic in human intelligence. Abstract thinking is nothing but fancy computation. It can be implemented in math and executed on a GPU.

what's actually happening is all your life you've been told by experience if something can talk to you is that it must be somewhat intelligent. Now you get can't around that this might not be the case. You're like that beetle going extinct mating with beer bottles. https://www.npr.org/sections/krulwich/2013/06/19/193493225/t...

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Aug 28, 2025, 10:02 PM UTC

throwaway31131 wrote: post #139

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I'm not sure it's that our job is the most automatable, but that the interface is the easiest to adapt to our workflow. I have a feeling language models will be good at virtually every "sit at a desk" job in a virtually identical capacity, it's just the act of plugging an AI into these roles is non-obvious. Like every business was impacted by the Internet equally, the early applications were just an artifact of what…

> I'm not sure it's that our job is the most automatable I don't know. It seems pretty friendly to automation to me. When was the last time you wrote assembly? When was the last time you had map memory? Think about blitting memory to a screen buffer to draw a square on a screen? Schedule processes and threads? These are things that I routinely did as a junior engineer writing software a long time ago. Most people at…

Post by mostlysimilar » Thu, Aug 28, 2025, 10:06 PM UTC

jameslk wrote: post #140

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The accounting note is not true in the traditional sense. The field in the US is just getting offshored to India/PH/Eastern Europe for better or for worse. There is even a big push to lower the educational requirements to attain licensure in the US (Big 4 partners want more bodies and are destroying the pipeline for US students). Audit quality will continue to suffer and public filers will issue bunk financials if th…

How many of these jobs are getting offshored because of AI? Language barriers, culture, and knowledge are some of the biggest challenges to overcome for offshoring. AI potentially solves many of those challenges

Post by deathanatos » Thu, Aug 28, 2025, 10:14 PM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #146

ArtTimeInvestor wrote: post #38

Every day when I am out in the city, I am amazed by how many jobs we have NOT managed to replace with AI yet. For example, cashiers. There are still many people spending their lives dragging items over a scanner, reading a number from a screen, holding out their hand for the customer to put money in, and then sorting the coins into boxes. How hard can it be to automate that?

Pharmacists are my favourite. They're a human vending machine that is bad at counting and reading. But law protects them. Pretty good regulatory capture.