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AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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Re: AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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Post by techpineapple »

I’m suss about this paper when it makes this claim:

“where AI is more likely to automate, rather than augment , human labor.”

Where is AI currently automating human labor? Not Software Engineering. Or - what’s the difference between AI that augments me so I can do the job of three people and AI that “automates human labor”

Re: AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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Post by lotsofpulp »

techpineapple wrote: post #2

I’m suss about this paper when it makes this claim: “where AI is more likely to automate, rather than augment , human labor.” Where is AI currently automating human labor? Not Software Engineering. Or - what’s the difference between AI that augments me so I can do the job of three people and AI that “automates human labor”

What is the effective difference between augment and automate? Either way, fewer man hours are needed to produce the same output.

Re: AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

muldvarp wrote: post #3

Brutal that software engineering went from one of the least automatable jobs to a job that is universally agreed to be "most exposed to automation". Was good while it lasted though.

Too bad engineers were “too important” to unionize because their/our labor is “too special .”

I think you could find 10,000 quotes from HN alone why SDEs were immune to labor market struggles that would need a union

Oh well, good luck everyone.

Re: AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #6
muldvarp wrote: post #3

Brutal that software engineering went from one of the least automatable jobs to a job that is universally agreed to be "most exposed to automation". Was good while it lasted though.

Too bad engineers were “too important” to unionize because their/our labor is “too special .” I think you could find 10,000 quotes from HN alone why SDEs were immune to labor market struggles that would need a union Oh well, good luck everyone.

This is, if true, a fundamental shift in the value of labor. There really isn’t a non-Luddite way to save these jobs without destroying American tech’s productivity.

That said, I’m still sceptical it isn’t simply a reflection of an overproduction of engineers and a broader economic slowdown.

Re: AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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Post by fibers »

The accounting note is not true in the traditional sense. The field in the US is just getting offshored to India/PH/Eastern Europe for better or for worse. There is even a big push to lower the educational requirements to attain licensure in the US (Big 4 partners want more bodies and are destroying the pipeline for US students). Audit quality will continue to suffer and public filers will issue bunk financials if they aren't properly attested to.

Re: AI adoption linked to 13% decline in jobs for young U.S. workers: study

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #4
techpineapple wrote: post #2

I’m suss about this paper when it makes this claim: “where AI is more likely to automate, rather than augment , human labor.” Where is AI currently automating human labor? Not Software Engineering. Or - what’s the difference between AI that augments me so I can do the job of three people and AI that “automates human labor”

What is the effective difference between augment and automate? Either way, fewer man hours are needed to produce the same output.

> What is the effective difference between augment and automate?

If the field has a future.

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