I can't comment on the methodology used to rank the universities, but I think it's interesting that a specialised (as opposed to "fully comprehensive") university has come out on top. MIT would probably not be a great choice of university for someone looking to take an arts degree :-)
While it's certainly not their focus, MIT does have some surprisingly good humanities programs.
MIT overtakes Cambridge and Harvard to top spot in QS world university rankings
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Re: MIT overtakes Cambridge and Harvard to top spot in QS world university rankings
#32In the 2010 Times Higher Education "top universities" list, Alexandria University in Egypt ranked ahead of Georgetown and Delft. It also beat out Harvard and Stanford in the subcategory that measured the impact of research (1). Here's what happened: Phil Baty, deputy editor of Times Higher Education, acknowledged that Alexandria’s surprising prominence was actually due to “the high output from one scholar in one jour…
Just for the record: I recently read (presumably on HN, too) about a ranking where somebody asked lawyers to rank schools according to their prestige. Penn-State always got ranked in the middle, even though it didn't have a law school at all. So, in a sense it doesn't even matter if administrators are cheating or not...
Re: MIT overtakes Cambridge and Harvard to top spot in QS world university rankings
#33I can't comment on the methodology used to rank the universities, but I think it's interesting that a specialised (as opposed to "fully comprehensive") university has come out on top. MIT would probably not be a great choice of university for someone looking to take an arts degree :-)
Also, I'm not sure that it is correct to say that science and engineering are more "specialized" in their entirety than liberal arts are. All of Harvard's engineering, for instance, is contained in a single department. Doesn't that make Harvard more "specialized" towards liberal arts?
Re: MIT overtakes Cambridge and Harvard to top spot in QS world university rankings
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I loved Cambridge but honestly the Computer Science course was pretty poor. It won't have helped that the best first-year lecturer, Arthur Norman, retired recently.
From what I've seen watching British TV, I gather Cambridge and Oxford are divided into semi-autonomous colleges. Do you share lecturers among colleges, or is there one college that all computer science majors attend?
The analogy usually used for the benefit of American-tourists (not meant patronisingly, it's just empirically surprisingly effective) is that it's like Hogwarts. You have the colleges/houses (like gryffindor and hufflepuff) where you live (at least in 1st year) and eat and play sports for, but lectures and the degree in general (like potions class) are all done in faculties with people doing the same course but in other colleges.
Most lecturers and professors will belong to a college too, but they'll still be lecturers in a faculty rather than a college. In Cambridge there is an academic rank called 'College Lecturer' but like most things that doesn't mean what it says, and is probably designed to confuse and intimidate foreign people, like everything else (for example May Week when all the college balls are held after exams, is in June, and the weeks start on Thursday and end on Wednesday). [Lest the po-faced take me seriously, it's not actually designed to confuse people, it's just there's a lot of vestigial baggage that it's not worth the effort of changing [like removing an appaendix when it's not causing you problems] when you've been around almost a millennium and where a switch to the Gregorian Calendar was more recent than when the desk in your study was built.]
Re: MIT overtakes Cambridge and Harvard to top spot in QS world university rankings
#35More interestingly, Oxford overtook Cambridge in Computer Science :P
I loved Cambridge but honestly the Computer Science course was pretty poor. It won't have helped that the best first-year lecturer, Arthur Norman, retired recently.
Re: MIT overtakes Cambridge and Harvard to top spot in QS world university rankings
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
I loved Cambridge but honestly the Computer Science course was pretty poor. It won't have helped that the best first-year lecturer, Arthur Norman, retired recently.
From what I've seen watching British TV, I gather Cambridge and Oxford are divided into semi-autonomous colleges. Do you share lecturers among colleges, or is there one college that all computer science majors attend?
Re: MIT overtakes Cambridge and Harvard to top spot in QS world university rankings
#37I find the rankings from ARWU (a Shanghai-based institute) makes more sense. http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU2012.html The Top ten universities listed there are 1 Harvard University 2 Stanford University 3 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) 4 University of California, Berkeley 5 University of Cambridge 6 California Institute of Technology 7 Princeton University 8 Columbia University 9 University of Chicag…
(In particular, I'm comparing the ranking of Stanford and MIT in surveys from the UK and Asia.)
Re: MIT overtakes Cambridge and Harvard to top spot in QS world university rankings
#38I can't comment on the methodology used to rank the universities, but I think it's interesting that a specialised (as opposed to "fully comprehensive") university has come out on top. MIT would probably not be a great choice of university for someone looking to take an arts degree :-)
Re: MIT overtakes Cambridge and Harvard to top spot in QS world university rankings
#39In the 2010 Times Higher Education "top universities" list, Alexandria University in Egypt ranked ahead of Georgetown and Delft. It also beat out Harvard and Stanford in the subcategory that measured the impact of research (1). Here's what happened: Phil Baty, deputy editor of Times Higher Education, acknowledged that Alexandria’s surprising prominence was actually due to “the high output from one scholar in one jour…
The important thing shouldn't be education, but what is done with it.
Here is a messy and incomplete list of cool things created by people from lower ranking universities:
Python: University of Amsterdam. Ruby: University of Tsukuba. PHP: University of Waterloo. Javascript: University of Illinois at Urbana–Champaign Rails: Copenhagen Business School Django: University of Bath and Missouri School of Journalism Drupal: Ghent University Linux: University of Helsinki MySQL: Helsinki University of Technology and ?? Perl: Seattle Pacific University Java: University of Calgary Objective C: Furman University and ?? C++: University of Aarhus C#: Technical University of Denmark
Re: MIT overtakes Cambridge and Harvard to top spot in QS world university rankings
#40In the 2010 Times Higher Education "top universities" list, Alexandria University in Egypt ranked ahead of Georgetown and Delft. It also beat out Harvard and Stanford in the subcategory that measured the impact of research (1). Here's what happened: Phil Baty, deputy editor of Times Higher Education, acknowledged that Alexandria’s surprising prominence was actually due to “the high output from one scholar in one jour…
For example, Stanford and Rice University have the same student-to-faculty ratio, and their endowments are proportional, but Stanford has 2 graduate students for every undergraduate student, whereas Rice is one of the smallest Division 1 schools AND has fewer graduate students. So when Rice claims undergraduates interested in interacting closely with faculty in cutting-edge research will have ample opportunity to do so, one could argue they may be more likely to provide that to undergrads than even Stanford. Because I've compared experiences with Stanford folks, I don't think Stanford is behind Rice in that category, but the fact is, I'm comparing against one of the very top schools. So perhaps my argument holds for most universities that are ahead of Rice in the rankings, but a student is going to have to really dig to figure that out, and perhaps speak with students and faculty at each university to grasp the differences that matter to him or her. And that's only in the category of undergraduate participation in research--there are many other questions students face that these rankings can't properly answer.