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Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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Re: Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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post #45

I went in a Barnes & Noble recently and was underwhelmed by the sheer amount of vapid crap masquerading as literature these days. I'm pretty sure if people are avoiding most of that crap that it's a good thing not a bad thing.

Anything post 2023 has a high chance of being complete generated slop now too.

Re: Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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Further, reading on tablets, computers, or smartphones was not explicitly included in examples, making it unclear whether this behavior would have been classified as reading for personal interest or technology use. I would like to cast doubt on the findings if they don't include phones.

It shouldn't count. That is distracted reading, imo.

So is reading a paperback in a house full of kids or Starbucks.

Re: Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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Further, reading on tablets, computers, or smartphones was not explicitly included in examples, making it unclear whether this behavior would have been classified as reading for personal interest or technology use. I would like to cast doubt on the findings if they don't include phones.

Yeah that’s dumb. I read a decent amount, but it’s all Kindle or Readwise. Why should I carry a book or e-reader around when I’m already carrying a phone or other similar device?

Re: Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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post #54

> The paper also noted that although reading with children is rare, it has not changed much over time. This part really got to me, reading to one's children is rare? That's so sad. My toddler loves reading with me.

How many people have yoyung children? It could just be a distribution/sampling problem.

I read to my youngest until he was 14. He grew up with me reading to him at bedtime and just enjoyed it.

We started with Detective Dinosaur and ended with either One Hundred Years of Solitude or Ender's Game. Don't remember which.

Re: Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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post #7

I just read "Slow Horses" by Mike Herron. It's easily as good as the show on Apple TV and was lots of fun to read. I can't imagine anything more entertaining.

I found that book to be such a slough (pun very much intended) to get through. Maybe the British humo(u)r just didn't land for me? I had the same problem with Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe

Share your issues with Hitchhiker's Guide. It never resonated for me. Fortunately the diversity of books matches the diversity of human tastes.

Re: Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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I flew from Detroit to Seattle last night. I used that time to read 170 pages of Crazy for the Storm by Norman Ollestad (easy, entertaining read). Though I obviously didn't walk the entire plane, looking around from my seat / when walking to the restroom, everyone I saw was watching a movie.

Planes are the worst way to watch a movie. Even with good noise cancelling headphones you can barely hear the dialogue. The screen is a 10 year old el cheapo LCD, and the video is 480p compressed to hell. On top of that, it has unskippable ads and the film is muted whenever the PA is on.

Re: Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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post #8

I find that when I start reading a book that I enjoy, it is easily the most gripping form of entertainment, and I can barely put the book down. But, it also takes more effort to get started, so I rarely get into that zone and end up scrolling my phone instead.

This is generally true of anything worthwhile - it always takes some activation energy. Watching a good film vs mindless one, tiktok vs a book, gardening vs tv. Investment of time into things worthwhile vs that immediate dopamine hit is a constant battle.

Re: Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people have yoyung children? It could just be a distribution/sampling problem.

I read to my youngest until he was 14. He grew up with me reading to him at bedtime and just enjoyed it. We started with Detective Dinosaur and ended with either One Hundred Years of Solitude or Ender's Game . Don't remember which.

With the really young kids you could lead with One Hundred Years of Solitude. There are lots of times you're not really showing them pictures in the book—or they're too young even for that, really, can't focus their eyes well—and they just need to hear the sounds and flow of language, not to understand every word (or any words). I read mine To the Lighthouse and shit like that, it was great, I think each kid got three or four "classics" while very young. I could pare down my own to-read list while being "a good parent", LOL, felt like a cheat code.

Re: Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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post #56

Further, reading on tablets, computers, or smartphones was not explicitly included in examples, making it unclear whether this behavior would have been classified as reading for personal interest or technology use. I would like to cast doubt on the findings if they don't include phones.

I know a couple folks that do a ton of phone only reading now. I haven't read for pleasure in over a decade but I've listened to ~1300 different audiobooks. Seems like this isn't well thought out.

Listening to audiobooks is included in the survey (but they also mention that most people who listen to audiobooks also read print books; you are likely an outlier in that regard).

Re: Reading for pleasure plummets by 40% in the US

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post #45

I went in a Barnes & Noble recently and was underwhelmed by the sheer amount of vapid crap masquerading as literature these days. I'm pretty sure if people are avoiding most of that crap that it's a good thing not a bad thing.

back in the day, bookstores specialized.. Barnes & Noble were a warehouse-sized super-commercial shop from the start; pushing vapid crap was certainly in that mix. Unfortunately, Amazon Books out-inventoried even the behemoth Barnes & Noble.. think Walmart for books. It was intentional.
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