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Omarchy Is Out

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Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by xiphias2 »

Spivak wrote: post #40
hd4 wrote: post #14

The real story with Omarchy is Hyprland. Feels like the first time the desktop Linux is not only fun but that there's a far better case being made for switching to desktop Linux over Windows, not only because of less resource usage, but also a new (old) paradigm in tiling windows, repackaged in a way that doesn't make people want to smash their computer. Hyprland itself comes with such nice defaults that it isn't sur…

Is Hyperland the thing that finally convinces hacker types that Wayland is the future? A Wayland compositor that gives you Xorg like scripting via a UNIX control socket, easy to set up, and is much much less opinionated than GNOME. So many of the criticisms of Wayland around the internet end up being things that Mutter doesn't let you control directly.

Hyperland is one part (it's amazing), but the other is a distro embracing the keyboard 100% and not treating it as an option where I need to think about how to set it up.

The only problem I have is that I bought a new beelink Pro9, put Omarchy on it and Hyperland locks up every day, and I don't know if it’s only me or not.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by debo_ »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #71

> I don't know when we'll literally get "The Year of Linux on the Desktop" Not for as long as we keep telling people that the best software is like this: > Because I do think that Hyprland deserves its reputation of being difficult! Not because the core tiling window manager is hard, but because it comes incredibly bare-boned in the box. You have to figure out everything yourself. Even how to get a lock screen or idl…

My 76-year old mother finds it much easier to use Zorin out the box than her Windows 11 machine.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by teekert »

Somehow, DHH has tapped into an enthusiasm for Linux I haven't felt in a long time. It's so great to see and to experience it with him! When I first discovered Linux it started a journey, from wonder to pragmatism (Mandrake [2004] -> Slackware -> Ubuntu -> Arch -> NixOS [current]).

I also spend many nights tweaking and re-tweaking, compiling kernels to get the maximum out of my desktops on rotating cubes with reflections and fish inside, the early Beryl/Xgl days. I miss those days, but Linux is a tool now, sometimes even just a runtime! Still have it on any computer though, and it just works, it feels like home!

From that late 2.4 kernel, manually mounting the first USB drives to what we have now. Super slick and smooth desktops, COW files systems, the ability to run almost any software. I love Linux.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by teekert »

wpm wrote: post #89
ramblerman wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point of omarchy is to give you great defaults, and then it being linux everything is completely customizable. Which with ChatGpt/Grok is trivial these days for even a non linux native.

Calling many of Omarchys defaults great is a stretch.

It's not about Omarchy, it's about an influencer falling in love with Linux. You can also fall in love, and shape the OS to your own liking.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by wonger_ »

nickjj wrote: post #34
siliconc0w wrote: post #8

I might be in the minority but I actually like overlapping windows - often the entire window is not necessary to get the data I am interested in. Right now I'm running tests in another window and I have a sliver of that window visible while the majority of the screen real-estate gets used for the browser in primary window.

I'm beginning to really like scrolling window managers. It's optimized for minimal splits (let's say 2-3 windows) per view but it makes it effortless to flip between apps. Floating windows is also an option and making any of them full screen is available too. Imagine tiling a bunch of pieces of paper on your floor and now you want to focus on a few of them at a time. That's basically what a scrolling window manager a…

Happy niri user checking in. Hard to imagine going back to a non-scrolling wm. Niri also has a decent config and builtins like screenshotting too.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by teekert »

joshcsimmons wrote: post #84

I genuinely don't understand this. It seems obtuse for the take of being obtuse with no real payoff. NixOS solves this problem comprehensively.

It's just a dude that fell in love with an OS, let him enjoy it. Many people went through this phase, except he is very influential and high energy, so we hear a lot about his particular honeymoon. I for one am really enjoying his journey. Reminds me of myself when I first discovered Linux. I don't evangelize anymore, I helped to many people onto Linux only to have to watch them completely hate it, it's too painful ;)

Sure, a nice configuration.nix to try Ohmanix would be great, and much more convenient, easier to maintain and evolve than DHH's scripts. But that is not the point. Maybe he will try NixOS in a year, maybe he will land on some bootc distro. I don't care, I love his enthusiasm. Btw, on the Linux Unplugged podcast the hosts are following DHH closely and indeed experimenting with more modern ways of creating similar experiences. Partly fueled just by DHH's enthusiasm.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by theYipster »

Hyprland is delightful, and the exposure DHH is giving both to it, Arch, and Linux is great.

Since Hyprland is composable and customizable by design, building out a functional workspace from scratch is an undertaking. On the other hand, there are number of other pre-configured dot-file "spins" worth trying that produce a nice Hyprland setup.

I like Omarchy, but ultimately settled on a Cachyos + Hyprland setup using Ml4W dotfiles. Like Omarchy, ML4W builds a very nice setup that isn't too garish and with sensible defaults. However, I benefit from Cachyos kernel optimizations and I'll admit I've become a convert to Fish. (Omarchy is the only Hyprland spin I've seen that keeps to Bash as the default interactive shell for Kitty/Alacritty.)

As I do like keeping up with Omarchy's evolution, it would be great if DHH could separate the Hyprland stuff from the rest of what he packages into his quasi-distro and make it available to folks who already have an Arch or Arch-derived setup they like. Personally, I'd like to revisit Omarchy from time to time without having to install another OS (Hyprland doesn't work well with VMs.)

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