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Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by umbra07 »

directmusic wrote: post #30
hd4 wrote: post #14

The real story with Omarchy is Hyprland. Feels like the first time the desktop Linux is not only fun but that there's a far better case being made for switching to desktop Linux over Windows, not only because of less resource usage, but also a new (old) paradigm in tiling windows, repackaged in a way that doesn't make people want to smash their computer. Hyprland itself comes with such nice defaults that it isn't sur…

I can absolutely echo your sentiment. I recently released some software which has Wayland support. Immediately, I got some bug reports from Hyprland users so I setup a partition with EndeavourOS + Hyprland to work out the issues. I was pleasantly surprised to find that, as you said, the defaults are nice. Configuring it was a breeze as well. Now about 2 weeks later I am daily driving the system I setup for testing an…

What was the hyprland-specific issue?

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by umbra07 »

aidenn0 wrote: post #29
hd4 wrote: post #14

The real story with Omarchy is Hyprland. Feels like the first time the desktop Linux is not only fun but that there's a far better case being made for switching to desktop Linux over Windows, not only because of less resource usage, but also a new (old) paradigm in tiling windows, repackaged in a way that doesn't make people want to smash their computer. Hyprland itself comes with such nice defaults that it isn't sur…

I hear Hyprland second only to Gnome in the NixOS world (where it's arguably easier to try different desktop environments compared to e.g. Ubuntu). Now it could just be that Hyprland users are more vocal than XFCE or plasma users, so it's not definitive, but it definitely has "buzz"

That's... surprising. GNOME and Nix has very contrasting philosophies.

Anyways, Hyprland is primarily driven by the Arch side of things, considering that:

* there are way more Arch users than Nix users

* Arch is much more trendy amongst non-developer/Linux users.

* Arch is easier to setup and use - less friction

* Arch is more popular in the unixporn reddit/YouTube world, which is where Hyprland gained much of its popularity

* the Hyprland developer uses Arch, and has recently started selling customized dot files, advertised as "supported on Arch- based and Fedora distributions."

Nix users are simply not a driving force in the Linux userland world.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by Imustaskforhelp »

hd4 wrote: post #42
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yes as an hyprland user, the community is definitely more vocal. I myself convinced one of my friends to use hyprland fedora as his first linux experience which is wild (I also use nixos too but I use nix plasma and arch hyprland, i mean I barely use nix, arch is my goto but you get my point) I agree it has buzz but its just cool open source software man, I like it. it isn't as plug n play even still as plasma or gno…

The reason it's wild is someone has managed to make a tiling WM that isn't just usable and nice, but actually created incredible hype around it, and made people want to give it a chance and switch away from something as entrenched as DEs. It's really a wondrous achievement, something the majority of the Linux community never thought could be done until it was.

Yes, I agree.

Although I don't necessarily agree with the hyprland's main dev's responses on many github issues (which sound crude/rude to me) and I think that the community from what I've heard has also become just a little toxic on things like discord but I feel like sometimes we need to seperate the art from the artist and hyprland is picking even more hype so the main's dev's crudeness can be tucked away even more so. To be honest, thinking about it, even linus is crude yet the penguin (tux/linux) is universally loved (for the most part) So yeah. for the most part, I like hyprland.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by ramblerman »

anaisbetts wrote: post #13

I want to love Omarchy but replacing the boot splash screen with its logo is rough, I wish there was a clear way to disable that

The whole point of omarchy is to give you great defaults, and then it being linux everything is completely customizable.

Which with ChatGpt/Grok is trivial these days for even a non linux native.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by umbra07 »

ximm wrote: post #35

Last time I checked hyprland was pretty much despised in the wider linux developer community. See for example https://drewdevault.com/2023/09/17/Hyprland-toxicity.html . Has anything about that changed?

Yes. Hyprland has burnt bridges with many of the classic/pre-existing Linux dev communities. Amongst other things, the main developer was banned from freedesktop.

But they have a very, very large user base, which means lots of contributors - especially young, first-time-FOSS/Linux contributors. In a way, Hyprland has partially done what Linus was hoping to do by adding Rust to the kernel (attract the next-generation of young developers). And they have an active BDFL - no "led by committee" issues.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by marstall »

For mac users interested in tiling (ish) managers, but not willing to make the leap DHH made, I highly recommend the Magnet app, which gets me most of the goodness he is demoing in the first part here ... (and maybe a little more?)

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by durandal1 »

marstall wrote: post #67

For mac users interested in tiling (ish) managers, but not willing to make the leap DHH made, I highly recommend the Magnet app, which gets me most of the goodness he is demoing in the first part here ... (and maybe a little more?)

The only tiling window experience that stuck for me is Aerospace.

Re: Omarchy Is Out

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Post by filereaper »

marstall wrote: post #67

For mac users interested in tiling (ish) managers, but not willing to make the leap DHH made, I highly recommend the Magnet app, which gets me most of the goodness he is demoing in the first part here ... (and maybe a little more?)

I would also like to recommend Aerospace which is closer to i3 on Linux:

https://github.com/nikitabobko/AeroSpace

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