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Paracetamol disrupts early embryogenesis by cell cycle inhibition

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Naproxen sodium is also a lot better, and is slightly safer than ibuprofen to take for extended periods. I had severe sciatica for the better part of a year, and the only thing that kept me somewhat functional was ~1000mg/day of naproxen, which isn’t great for you but would’ve been a lot worse if it had been ibuprofen (never mind opiates or something).

That's fair, but naproxen is OTC or prescription-only in many jurisdictions.

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I've always had an (unreasonable?) dislike of Paracetamol/Tylenol ever since I found out it was the #1 cause of acute liver failure in the US. Liver failure is scary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol_poisoning

As with all things, the poison is in the dose. A tonne of incredibly useful medicine can kill you if dosed incorrectly.

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I think Paracetamol is better for fever, but for other pain I always prefer Ibuprofen.

From wikipedia:

At a standard dose, paracetamol slightly reduces fever,[13][17][18] though it is inferior to ibuprofen in that respect[19]

[13] Warwick C (November 2008). "Paracetamol and fever management". J R Soc Promot Health. 128 (6): 320–323. doi:10.1177/1466424008092794. PMID 19058473. S2CID 25702228.

[17] Chiumello D, Gotti M, Vergani G (April 2017). "Paracetamol in fever in critically ill patients-an update". J Crit Care. 38: 245–252. doi:10.1016/j.jcrc.2016.10.021. PMID 27992852. S2CID 5815020.

[18] de Martino M, Chiarugi A (December 2015). "Recent Advances in Pediatric Use of Oral Paracetamol in Fever and Pain Management". Pain Ther. 4 (2): 149–68. doi:10.1007/s40122-015-0040-z. PMC 4676765. PMID 26518691.

[19] Pierce CA, Voss B (March 2010). "Efficacy and safety of ibuprofen and acetaminophen in children and adults: a meta-analysis and qualitative review". Ann Pharmacother. 44 (3): 489–506. doi:10.1345/aph.1M332. PMID 20150507. S2CID 44669940.

Re: Paracetamol disrupts early embryogenesis by cell cycle inhibition

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I've always had an (unreasonable?) dislike of Paracetamol/Tylenol ever since I found out it was the #1 cause of acute liver failure in the US. Liver failure is scary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol_poisoning

It is scary, but I assume caution improves your chances of avoiding an overdose considerably.

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Naproxen sodium is also a lot better, and is slightly safer than ibuprofen to take for extended periods. I had severe sciatica for the better part of a year, and the only thing that kept me somewhat functional was ~1000mg/day of naproxen, which isn’t great for you but would’ve been a lot worse if it had been ibuprofen (never mind opiates or something).

I have an emergency Naproxen stash for the occasional gout flare-up and it's so much more effective than Ibuprofen it's amazing.

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Basically, paracetamol turns out to be mildly contraceptive, by meddling with cell division cycle. I wonder if it might also slow healing of wounds, or wherever else intense cell division happens.

Unsure if this is related, but I’ve heard that taking painkillers for delayed onset muscle soreness will reduce muscle gains.

Same goes for icebaths, they reduce inflammation, which is the whole point of working out.

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I've always had an (unreasonable?) dislike of Paracetamol/Tylenol ever since I found out it was the #1 cause of acute liver failure in the US. Liver failure is scary. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracetamol_poisoning

It's not just that it causes liver failure: it's that the difference between the therapeutic dosing range for pain relief it's prescribed for is dangerously close to the toxicity level.

Other drugs like theophylline have ceased to be prescribed for a similar reason alternatives were available, but due to drug marketing, acetaminophen is touted as the "safe" pain reliever.

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Basically, paracetamol turns out to be mildly contraceptive, by meddling with cell division cycle. I wonder if it might also slow healing of wounds, or wherever else intense cell division happens.

The vaccine-autism smoking gun that Andrew Wakefield and RFK Jr. heroically tried to find has, so far, failed to turn up. But there was a study recently that showed that autism is correlated with the mother taking acetaminophen during pregnancy.

> Andrew Wakefield and RFK Jr. heroically tried to find

I'm not sure if that was supposed to be sarcastic, but these two people have done more harm to public health, and are responsible for more health dis/mis-information, than pretty much anyone I can think of. (I am a biochemist, no conflict of interest)

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