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I guess for a lot of users like myself using Notion ship has sailed. Most of them have moved to Obsidian, with the new database feature of Obsidian, and it being free, I do not see why users would choose Notion over Obsidian.
While we're here; as a long time zim-wiki user, and as someone who dabbled in org-mode for a year; Obsidian never felt compelling enough to switch. For me, this year, Logseq did. The killer concept for me is that it does org-mode hierarchy and outline collapsing, but easier; being able to "zero in" on a block, regardless of whether its its own page is excellent.
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Notion for my team, Obsidian for myself. We do everything in Notion. Book time off, HR policies, run books, playbooks, knowledge dumps, project management, sprint management. Search is a lot better so it really opens up the use cases. Imo, if you're building a company with the goal of selling it you should use Notion. Get your team to use it, and capture everything about your business. When you go to sell it you have…
And if you not going to sell it from the day one, but rather deliver something you promised to deliver (not necessarily promised to others), you may want to use a set of self-hosted tools. I guess.
I don't see how one follows from the other, the vast majority of people use tools to deliver value without really caring whether they're self hosted or not
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But everything is stored as .md, which is ubiquitous. You'll still have access to your notes and be able to edit them with your preferred text editor.
This is always the argument but obsidian does a lot on top of these md files. NASA's mission control software stores data in JSON, it's an open format so I guess the NASA software is easily replaceable huh? If obsidian was such a thin layer then why isn't there a good open source alternative? People build their workflows on top of the obsidian functionality, not just the md data.
What do they do besides the frontmatter (which is fairly trivial to process or ignore in a hypothetical future where one wants to stop using obsidian)?
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I use both. Obsidian is very powerful for quick entry and working on Markdown knowledge bases, and it's great. I use it to manage my digital garden among other things. On the other hand, Notion is great for processing data. I use their databases extensively incl. their charts and whatnot. I also host a couple of read-only public pages for friends or family as documentation. I think they cater to different use cases a…
For some kinds of data processing having your files in a local folder is a prereq. Every day I have my Obsidian vault open in Zed, and I interact with files via the tool-calling agent panel and via terminal. I haven't tried Notion AI, maybe it's great. But I can't imagine going back to a world where all my knowledge lives in Notion's house. Notion CEO Ivan Zhao recently said: "If you think about applications, each ap…
Of course.
> open in Zed, and I interact with files via the tool-calling agent panel and via terminal.
Ah no, I don't use AI for that kind of tasks. I generally use my own formulae and what Notion provides Sans-AI.
> I haven't tried Notion AI, maybe it's great.
Me neither. I asked for authors and synopsis for a couple of books, that's all.
> I can't imagine going back to a world where all my knowledge lives in Notion's house.
Before going in, I always check how the Export works. Notion gives your text as Markdown and tables/databases as CSV, which is good enough for me.
I don't prefer to use services which I need to move my stuff by hand.
If I can make Bases work for me in Obsidian, I might move completely to Obsidian, but I need to test that first.
Edit: Looks like the functions Obsidian supports are not enough for me to move over yet.
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There are no tiers or different features, just their own sync service is a paid service, and the commercial license is paid but optional. Otherwise the free Obsidian has everything, and there are other plugins for self hosted syncing that don't use the paid service.
but without syncing is basically unusable, or can I access my texts from my pc and my cell for example?
If don't know how or can't be bothered, you can pay for Obsidian Sync - which Just Works.
I tried to roll my own syncing with syncthing and iCloud and Dropbox. In the end I spent so much time debugging and dealing with files clobbering each other mid-sync I figured out $4/month to support a project I use daily isn't too much.
Zero problems since and I use Obsidian regularly on 4 different devices.
1. I was manually dumping the the link and manually adding the title. 2. Slack lists seems to be okayish but doesn't let me tag easily. Message is not highlighted as much as Later feature does. 3. Trying out Notion but it doesn't show message upfront.
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And if you not going to sell it from the day one, but rather deliver something you promised to deliver (not necessarily promised to others), you may want to use a set of self-hosted tools. I guess.
> deliver something you promised to deliver (not necessarily promised to others), you may want to use a set of self-hosted tools. I don't see how one follows from the other, the vast majority of people use tools to deliver value without really caring whether they're self hosted or not
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Are they comparable tools in a team context? The ease of linking documents to people and collaborating? Seems like solo, sure. But in a group.. Obsidian doesn't replace Notion at all.
obsidian’s great for solo use, but for team collaboration, anytype is closer to notion-built-in group sync, permissions, and offline support. you don’t need plugins or external services for multi-user editing; it just works across devices