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Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by HappMacDonald »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #57
smallnix wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please post a link to a picture of your national ID. /s

I've had to upload my ID card to send money, open a bank account online, verify my identity for a dating app, book an international flight, and ironically to register for the app to have an electronic version of my id on my phone, and weirdly to pay a traffic ticket (why do they care who pays it?), get a discount on my Amazon Prime subscription, and finally to reset my password for my ID.me login for government websi…

So think through what you've just said.

If you were able to do all of those things to prove your identity using your ID.. then any identity thief with a copy of your ID could use it to impersonate you in every one of those venues.

That means that somebody else can send your money wherever they wish.. create bank accounts to perform nefarious deeds that tie back to you.. book flights, and subscribe to services on your dime or on a stolen credit card behind your name so that after the chargebacks all debt collection activity aims at you. And finally convince the government to send your tax refunds to them.

In light of this what is absurd about being parsimonious with who and how we share copies of our ID, and why should virtually every website online be deputized into keeping copies of them to provide dog standard content services that might not always be suitable for all audiences?

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by tomrod »

Spivak wrote: post #51
petcat wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> More and more sites (especially adult ones) are now forcing users to upload IDs or selfies to continue. > they might just get enough attention from voters to motivate a change Unfortunately, guaranteeing anonymous internet porno is a terrible political beachhead to motivate "voters" to do anything.

You don't have to sell it like that. The bill that needs to be passed is default presumption that all websites on the internet not explicitly marked as such and who voluntarily accept a higher legal burden and standard of moderation may contain content not suitable for children. And that is up to parents to control their child's internet access to limit their usage to only these sites. Because I don't actually care a…

It's not about porn. It's about setting a legal beachead to force websites to deanonymize users.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by scarface_74 »

ltbarcly3 wrote: post #86
scarface_74 wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t see the difference between it getting out some place I travelled to, opened a bank account to, etc than if I visit grandmamidgetporn.com?

Nobody uploads their ID to some porn site, they work with some reputable id verification company.

Out of curiosity, I wanted to see how the five most popular porn sites handled age verification since I live in Florida. One of the states that require it. I started here (safe for work - just list of the most popular websites overall - not porn sites)

https://conversion.ag/blog/top-websites-in-the-world/

Do any of these alternatives seem like something you would want to use?

#10 doesn’t require any age verification.

#12 doesn’t allow you to sign in at all unless you are a creator

#14 no verification needed

#25 requires you to use your Google or Twitter account or an email address.

#61 requires you to log in with your Google account.

#69 wants you to upload your drivers license or passport to a site called

https://saas-onboarding.incodesmile.com/multimedia214/flow/6...

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

#94

Post by qwertox »

I wish they would add a dropdown box where I can select English as the main language.

If they pretend they're a product targeted at anyone in the DACH region by offering the pages only in German, then they also must add an imprint: who they are, who is responsible, where they are, how I can contact them via email and phone.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by thrown-0825 »

perihelions wrote: post #8

As a remark, not a criticism, such a deliberate promotion is probably illegal in the UK market, > "But Ofcom says platforms required to introduce "highly effective" methods to check user age must not host, share or permit content that encourages use of VPNs to get around age checks. The government has also told the BBC it would be illegal for platforms to do so." https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn72ydj70g5o

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Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

#96

Post by zarzavat »

pas wrote: post #41
petcat wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> must not host, share or permit content that encourages use of VPNs to get around age checks. The government has also told the BBC it would be illegal for platforms to do so Holy. Crap. I knew the UK was going off the deep end with these laws, but this actually looks like China-level government reach.

next step is to try to make VPNs illegal (or require age verification for them, of course)

You need to introduce an invasive great firewall before you can effectively ban VPNs, since there's so many different ways to hide traffic.

Unlike banning porn, banning VPNs has no political value because the technically inept voters who support these age verification policies don't know what a VPN is.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

#97

Post by sitkack »

echelon wrote: post #45
skyzouwdev wrote: post #37

That’s a bold move. Handing over IDs to random sites is definitely a privacy nightmare, so I get why you built this. The real question is whether it buys time for users or just accelerates the push for stricter regulation. Either way, it sparks an important conversation

> Handing over IDs to random sites is definitely a privacy nightmare They just need to leak all of the elected official internet usage. You'll see this rolled back faster than it was implemented. I really can't wait for the video titles of the porn our government officials watch to be read out loud by newscasters. That's going to be such sweet karma.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bork_tapes

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

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Post by sitkack »

HappMacDonald wrote: post #88
pas wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

showing a plastic card in a store to buy the yearly Cum Companion Calendar or whatever is one thing, because the clerk likely is not a savant with eidetic memory, whereas online there's this little thing happening called data processing which starts with the only thing we usually don't want with our ID. copying.

I wonder what the legality would be for the brick and mortar stores (especially the big chain ones) to just start asking customers for ID and then swiping them through scanners that can do all of the eidetic memory work for them?

Kroger already does this, they will get sued for millions and millions of dollars when they have a data breach.

Re: Show HN: NextDNS Adds "Bypass Age Verification"

#100

Post by sitkack »

HappMacDonald wrote: post #91
ltbarcly3 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had to upload my ID card to send money, open a bank account online, verify my identity for a dating app, book an international flight, and ironically to register for the app to have an electronic version of my id on my phone, and weirdly to pay a traffic ticket (why do they care who pays it?), get a discount on my Amazon Prime subscription, and finally to reset my password for my ID.me login for government websi…

So think through what you've just said. If you were able to do all of those things to prove your identity using your ID.. then any identity thief with a copy of your ID could use it to impersonate you in every one of those venues. That means that somebody else can send your money wherever they wish.. create bank accounts to perform nefarious deeds that tie back to you.. book flights, and subscribe to services on your…

Bro already has a disease, doesn't care if everyone else gets it too. What kind of argument is ... I already sent my ID all over the internet multiple times?
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