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Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by tptacek »

mystraline wrote: post #599
tptacek wrote: post #598

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can be for Hamas?

I'm not, but I know those who are. Hamas won the 2006 Palestinian legislative elections. Last elections too. For quite many, Hamas are freedom fighters defending against invaders.

Hamas won that election in large part by throwing their opponents off the tops of buildings, and then, having secured power in Gaza, never allowed another election, to the point where a plurality of Gazan Palestinians are not old enough ever to have participated in an election. Anyone calling Hamas "freedom fighters" is telling on themselves. No, I don't think you can reasonably be for Hamas.

I don't have anything else to nitpick about your comment! Just that one thing you said stuck out, because, no; being for Hamas is like being for the Khmer Rouge. Like, yeah, western imperialism in Indochina was absolutely a thing at the time of the Khmer Rouge. But no, you don't get to be for the Khmer Rouge!

("Last elections too"? What did you mean by that?)

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by aurareturn »

KnuthIsGod wrote: post #370

So when China did this, this was criticised. When the UK do it... Double standards are wonderful.

Watch out. Someone on HN might send you a link to "Whataboutism" in order to dodge double standard accusations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

I might as well do it first.

For whatever reason, people on HN seem to think double standards are ok as long as the west do it but not when China does it. Maybe because "freedom"?

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by Ferret7446 »

jon-wood wrote: post #44
elric wrote: post #35

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They've been doing this for years at protests, using "Forward Intelligence Teams". Even back in 2010 [1] there was an action group trying to protest this growing police-state (Fitwatch). The UK has had an insane number of CCTV cameras for as long as I can remember. Must be a truly dangerous place... https://web.archive.org/web/20100824175032/http://fitwatch.o...

The CCTV cameras I've never really had a problem with - despite what TV shows and films would like to tell you they're not actually a single coherent CCTV network, a vast proportion of them are operated by random shopkeepers, private home owners, and other such places. If they want footage from them the police are typically going to have to send someone out to ask for it, and then hope they haven't reused the storage…

> despite what TV shows and films would like to tell you they're not actually a single coherent CCTV network

Isn't that the CC in CCTV? Closed circuit implies that it's restricted to an on prem network

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Post by throwaway422432 »

arresin wrote: post #333
throwaway422432 wrote: post #252

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You can get UV protection hats that have a clip-able face cover for those times you just want to go outside for a minute without having to slap on sunscreen. Have a few at home just for that, but they could definitely have a dual-use.

Damn could you link me? That’s exactly what I’m after. Or give me the search terms? Thanks.

Have a look at the Solbari Ultimate Sun Hat UPF 50+

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Post by ahf8Aithaex7Nai »

renegat0x0 wrote: post #448
somenameforme wrote: post #308

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The first time I taught, it was a rather interesting experience realizing how little capacity teachers actually have to deal with e.g. a disruptive student. Yeah you can pass them along to the disciplinarian or whatever, but in the end it's often empty threats - especially if the parents themselves don't particularly care, which in the case of highly disruptive students is nearly always the case. But if a class itsel…

I come from Poland, where the streets are generally quite peaceful. Some of my friends from France and Germany say things feel less peaceful there. They believe immigration has played a role in that. I’m not here to agree or disagree — I can only share my own experiences. The more disruption there is in society, the more people seem willing to accept increased control by authorities. I'm not necessarily saying this i…

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Post by atmosx »

Stevvo wrote: post #568
atmosx wrote: post #546

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The European Union has, in practice, lacked genuine free movement of people across internal borders for some time (I went through complete and very aggressive border control entering France via airplane three years ago). Schengen arrangements have been curtailed in Germany[^1]. Part of the challenge is that Europeans appear out of touch with rapidly changing realities (I say this as a European). Additionally, some ar…

Italy is spending the 5% target on building a bridge to Sicily. They should have done that years ago, it would have transformed the Island's economy and dealt a large blow to the Mafia. Hope other countries can find ways to spend the 5% on critical infrastructure.

Really? I happen to be Sicilian from my mother’s side :-) - what makes you think this time will happen?

What usually is that they spend a few hundred millions in consultancy and plans. And then off we go for the next round :-)

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Post by atmosx »

pessimizer wrote: post #577
atmosx wrote: post #546

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The European Union has, in practice, lacked genuine free movement of people across internal borders for some time (I went through complete and very aggressive border control entering France via airplane three years ago). Schengen arrangements have been curtailed in Germany[^1]. Part of the challenge is that Europeans appear out of touch with rapidly changing realities (I say this as a European). Additionally, some ar…

Greeks borrowing money to buy completely unnecessary weapons from Germany was probably the main precipitating factor leading up to the Greek debt crisis.

Greece buys guns from several countries primarily for “protection” in case of war. There is a lot of corruption happening in these deals, but that’s not unique to Greece. Greece is in a very tough spot compared to other EU countries (ie Belgium) and hence everything is a bit more complicated.

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Post by [deleted] »

callamdelaney wrote: post #426
octo888 wrote: post #142

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5 years too late for that!

Disingenuous. Get a visa. People act like they weren't able to live and work in Europe before the EU - people did it, it was fine, it's not that difficult if you actually want to do it.

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Post by [deleted] »

la_mezcla wrote: post #195
johnisgood wrote: post #90

What is the point if there are people on many streets with CCTVs doing drugs openly. I saw a cop simply walk by someone overdosing. Nothing will happen. Again, what is the point exactly? Can anyone tell me? (Again, what is the point of the down-vote? I am asking for people's thought and opinions in the hope of a fruitful conversation).

One doesn't do drugs. One consumes or sells them. Next time do HN better :)

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