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Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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Post by skeezyboy »

benchly wrote: post #19
lelanthran wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So now we have Next, Nuxt, and Nyxt. What’s noxt? Well there's still two more vowels[1], so at a guess ... Naxt and Nixt? -------------------------------- [1] I've never understood why 'Y' is not a vowel.

We were taught in grade school that the vowels were "A, E, I, O, U....and sometimes Y" without any real explanation. I count that as our first lesson about the convoluted complexities of the English language.

>I count that as our first lesson about the convoluted complexities of the English language.

I dare say its made up as it goes along

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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Post by tremon »

bowsamic wrote: post #5
izhak wrote: post #4

The guys behind have decent lisp and hacking skills and zero to none product thinking. The project is around for a while but the complete lack of ability to think about users or from the users perpective makes it a dead end

Can you elaborate? In what ways have they failed their users?

By not having any form of content blocking for a long time (I lost track of the project, don't know what the current status is). The current web is too user-hostile to launch a browser without even basic stalking protection.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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Post by bigfishrunning »

benchly wrote: post #19
lelanthran wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So now we have Next, Nuxt, and Nyxt. What’s noxt? Well there's still two more vowels[1], so at a guess ... Naxt and Nixt? -------------------------------- [1] I've never understood why 'Y' is not a vowel.

We were taught in grade school that the vowels were "A, E, I, O, U....and sometimes Y" without any real explanation. I count that as our first lesson about the convoluted complexities of the English language.

Y is used as a vowel when it's between two consonants, and a consonant when it's not. A word like "Synchronize" uses y as a vowel, but a word like "Yellow" uses it as a consonant. Honestly, it's more vowel-like then consonant-like in every case I can think of, so maybe that rule is kind of weak, and it should be counted as a vowel all of the time...

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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Post by pritambaral »

bigfishrunning wrote: post #23
benchly wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We were taught in grade school that the vowels were "A, E, I, O, U....and sometimes Y" without any real explanation. I count that as our first lesson about the convoluted complexities of the English language.

Y is used as a vowel when it's between two consonants, and a consonant when it's not. A word like "Synchronize" uses y as a vowel, but a word like "Yellow" uses it as a consonant. Honestly, it's more vowel-like then consonant-like in every case I can think of, so maybe that rule is kind of weak, and it should be counted as a vowel all of the time...

> a vowel when it's between two consonants, and a consonant when it's not.

Not a hard rule, honestly.

Some Indian languages exhibit a blurring of sorts with Ye- sounds. E.g., in Telugu, the word for 'How' is 'yela', which is often also pronounced as 'ela'. TBF, Telugu also blurs Ve-/We- sounds similarly.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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Post by drob518 »

deadlypointer wrote: post #6

How does it stack up in terms of security? To me the idea of hackability is a bit conflicting with all the security features of modern browsers. The web is basically the main attack surface today, so I wouldn't use a niche browser engine.

Exactly my thought when I read the post. While I love the hackability of Emacs, it’s one thing if it’s just your editor with a security hole and another thing entirely if you’re downloading and interpreting pages (and JavaScript?) from the Internet cesspool with a browser with a security hole.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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Post by drdec »

lelanthran wrote: post #18
ironmagma wrote: post #7

So now we have Next, Nuxt, and Nyxt. What’s noxt?

> So now we have Next, Nuxt, and Nyxt. What’s noxt? Well there's still two more vowels[1], so at a guess ... Naxt and Nixt? -------------------------------- [1] I've never understood why 'Y' is not a vowel.

Vowels are sounds, not letters. [1]

Some letters always represent vowel sounds.

Some letters never represent vowel sounds.

Some letters are the letter Y

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vowel

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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Post by ijidak »

smartmic wrote: post #13
groceryheist wrote: post #2

This is so cool! I'm someone for whom emacs has steadily expanded its role in my computing life, but who will never adopt a text-based browser as a daily driver. Looking forward to the stable 4.0 release when I'll be prepared to use Nyxt and hope it can replace Firefox / Chromium as much as possible for me.

I also tried Nyxt, but I never stuck with it. I believe there are different UI contexts depending on the goal. For example, browsing the web is a different task and experience than editing text. That's why it comes naturally to me to use a mouse- and keyboard-driven application, Firefox in my case, for browsing and Emacs for anything text-related. In other words, using the purely text-driven Emacs interface to browse…

Plug for vimium. I find it hits the keyboard sweet spot for me while browsing.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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Post by groceryheist »

smartmic wrote: post #13
groceryheist wrote: post #2

This is so cool! I'm someone for whom emacs has steadily expanded its role in my computing life, but who will never adopt a text-based browser as a daily driver. Looking forward to the stable 4.0 release when I'll be prepared to use Nyxt and hope it can replace Firefox / Chromium as much as possible for me.

I also tried Nyxt, but I never stuck with it. I believe there are different UI contexts depending on the goal. For example, browsing the web is a different task and experience than editing text. That's why it comes naturally to me to use a mouse- and keyboard-driven application, Firefox in my case, for browsing and Emacs for anything text-related. In other words, using the purely text-driven Emacs interface to browse…

I use vimium now, but I think with an emacs-based browser I would be better at using the advanced features.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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Post by SoftTalker »

benchly wrote: post #19
lelanthran wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> So now we have Next, Nuxt, and Nyxt. What’s noxt? Well there's still two more vowels[1], so at a guess ... Naxt and Nixt? -------------------------------- [1] I've never understood why 'Y' is not a vowel.

We were taught in grade school that the vowels were "A, E, I, O, U....and sometimes Y" without any real explanation. I count that as our first lesson about the convoluted complexities of the English language.

We learned "A, E, I, O, U....and sometimes Y and W” but I can’t recall any examples of W as a vowel.
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