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Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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The guys behind have decent lisp and hacking skills and zero to none product thinking. The project is around for a while but the complete lack of ability to think about users or from the users perpective makes it a dead end

These are not the target for Nyxt. Think about Emacs. Or, for vi/nvi/vim people, Luakit/Vimb.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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This is so cool! I'm someone for whom emacs has steadily expanded its role in my computing life, but who will never adopt a text-based browser as a daily driver. Looking forward to the stable 4.0 release when I'll be prepared to use Nyxt and hope it can replace Firefox / Chromium as much as possible for me.

I also tried Nyxt, but I never stuck with it. I believe there are different UI contexts depending on the goal. For example, browsing the web is a different task and experience than editing text. That's why it comes naturally to me to use a mouse- and keyboard-driven application, Firefox in my case, for browsing and Emacs for anything text-related.

In other words, using the purely text-driven Emacs interface to browse multimedia web pages does not feel natural to me.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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The guys behind have decent lisp and hacking skills and zero to none product thinking. The project is around for a while but the complete lack of ability to think about users or from the users perpective makes it a dead end

Note that while it suffered from featuritis at some point, the main guy reverted some of it after the last other contributor left: https://old.reddit.com/r/lisp/comments/1m3kzv8/nyxt_400_prer...

Personally, I'll use and donate to it once it can run uBlock, not before.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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How does it stack up in terms of security? To me the idea of hackability is a bit conflicting with all the security features of modern browsers. The web is basically the main attack surface today, so I wouldn't use a niche browser engine.

That’s a good question to ask.

In terms of the browser itself, it’s not niche browser engine. The engine is Chromium (via Electron) by default, though WebKit is also supported as a compile time option.

So that should bring the same safeguards in terms of sandboxing from drive-by attacks.

Then risk here is code that has execution permissions outside of that sandbox. But here, that’s no different to running any kind of untrusted code (eg shell script, ELF, etc) on your local machine.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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So now we have Next, Nuxt, and Nyxt. What’s noxt?

> So now we have Next, Nuxt, and Nyxt. What’s noxt?

Well there's still two more vowels[1], so at a guess ... Naxt and Nixt?

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[1] I've never understood why 'Y' is not a vowel.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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So now we have Next, Nuxt, and Nyxt. What’s noxt?

> So now we have Next, Nuxt, and Nyxt. What’s noxt? Well there's still two more vowels[1], so at a guess ... Naxt and Nixt? -------------------------------- [1] I've never understood why 'Y' is not a vowel.

We were taught in grade school that the vowels were "A, E, I, O, U....and sometimes Y" without any real explanation. I count that as our first lesson about the convoluted complexities of the English language.

Re: Nyxt: The Emacs-like web browser

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The guys behind have decent lisp and hacking skills and zero to none product thinking. The project is around for a while but the complete lack of ability to think about users or from the users perpective makes it a dead end

i agree but it hasnt stopped emacs or linux for that matter
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