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Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by PeterStuer »

kombine wrote: post #336
somenameforme wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first time I taught, it was a rather interesting experience realizing how little capacity teachers actually have to deal with e.g. a disruptive student. Yeah you can pass them along to the disciplinarian or whatever, but in the end it's often empty threats - especially if the parents themselves don't particularly care, which in the case of highly disruptive students is nearly always the case. But if a class itsel…

I was taking an intercity coach to Glasgow recently and a teenage kid was on his phone browsing social media without headphones. I made a comment that he should use headphones or turn the volume off. He got defensive and angry. I did not to escalate, and put my earplugs on. I do believe certain parcels of the society need to be restrained.

Go to any hospital waiting room, and 80% of the time there will be a 60+ year old woman playing some inane phone game with the sound on max.

Callous anti-social phone behavior isn't just the prerogative of teens.

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by pydry »

lambdas wrote: post #193
orra wrote: post #115

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> Must be a truly dangerous place... I don't know if you're awaee, but the number of arrests for terrorism has skyrocketed in recent months, in the UK. Sounds terrifying, until you realise people were arrested as terrorists for holding placards. (That fact is of course terrifying, but in a chilling way).

I hope I’m not adding 2 + 2 to get 5, but it’s incredibly convenient that a lot of people are being charged for supporting a proscribed group the same month as the online safety act is rolled out… The cynic in me almost wonders if when it comes to re-election time, these increased numbers in terrorist charges will be trotted out and the context conveniently forgotten.

I dont think it really signifies anything more than there being a rather dim and unimaginative set of authoritarians in charge.

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by falcor84 »

sReinwald wrote: post #361
HKH2 wrote: post #342

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Interesting leap you made there. How can you do effective conflict resolution in a society where someone reads an anecdote about a rude teenager and immediately assumes the problem is multiculturalism?

I don't know if that's what they meant, but a generation gap in a rapidly changing society can absolutely be considered a cultural gap.

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by foldr »

sidewndr46 wrote: post #11

Doesn't the UK have cameras everywhere doing this anyways?

Not really. The UK government does not operate a centrally-controlled CCTV surveillance system, contrary to popular myth. There are a lot of privately owned cameras (but no reliable estimates of how many), and some local authorities, police forces, etc. operate CCTV cameras in certain locations.

If you actually dig in to the statistics that sometimes get quoted about CCTV in the UK you’ll find that a lot of the numbers have very little foundation.

Re: Facial recognition vans to be rolled out across police forces in England

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Post by bayindirh »

arethuza wrote: post #367
kombine wrote: post #336

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I was taking an intercity coach to Glasgow recently and a teenage kid was on his phone browsing social media without headphones. I made a comment that he should use headphones or turn the volume off. He got defensive and angry. I did not to escalate, and put my earplugs on. I do believe certain parcels of the society need to be restrained.

I have a far bigger problem with adults having calls in public places with their phones on speaker... should they be "restrained" as well?

I see this more of an invasion of the privacy of the other party and feel bad for them.

Also it's very rude (in British terms, so it's off-the-charts for me).

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Post by modo_mario »

josefritzishere wrote: post #24
philipallstar wrote: post #16

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Not immigrants. Illegal immigrants.

Colonial powers are not entitled to that argument, it's hypocritical.

The vast majority in any given colonial nation neither partook nor benefited much if at all.

For the vast crimes of leopold and subsequently to lesser extent the belgian state in congo the biggest chunk of money got invested in the brazilian rail network to make one family very rich for example. My great grandparents being subsistence farmers didn't see shit and you'd punish not just them but me for it.

Typically the people moving in are from countries which given fair comparison are similarly not owed an opinion given their sins of the father and many a nation is not allowed it's borders likely also yours lest you live in Buthan or so.

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Post by Aeolun »

gizajob wrote: post #375
Aeolun wrote: post #299

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There's this movie [1], created like 20 years ago, that perfectly predicted this evolution of the UK. It's bizarre that it's turned out to be prophetic. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_of_Men

Except that its main plot point was about infertility. And we’re not living in camps. And we haven’t gone feral with guns.

It's not 2027 yet!

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Post by falleng0d »

nunodonato wrote: post #359
_the_inflator wrote: post #334

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No, it is more like UK is now the new surveillance supermarket for EU: implementing what “works” for UK - trusted and applied technology. And also the excuse included: “not China”, but even this doesn’t come as cause for concern anymore. Have a look at the latest US “country report on human rights practices 2025”. Germany is flagged as unsafe so to say. It is as you can only hope that the NSA has some way to spy on y…

sure, we will trust USA to talk about human rights.

Don’t attack the messenger, attack the message.

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Post by _Wintermute »

anonymousDan wrote: post #234
jon-wood wrote: post #44

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The CCTV cameras I've never really had a problem with - despite what TV shows and films would like to tell you they're not actually a single coherent CCTV network, a vast proportion of them are operated by random shopkeepers, private home owners, and other such places. If they want footage from them the police are typically going to have to send someone out to ask for it, and then hope they haven't reused the storage…

I don't think this is true. Apparently the operation of a large majority of those private cameras is in fact outsourced to a handful of big security companies, and many of them are remotely operated. This makes getting access to private cameras a lot easier for police than you think.

If you've ever had to deal with the UK police as a victim of a crime, you'll quickly find out they're pretty useless at obtaining CCTV footage. I was asked to get it myself, to which the business who owned the CCTV told me they would only hand it to the police, so nothing happened.

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Post by a5c11 »

arresin wrote: post #328
ozlikethewizard wrote: post #169

It's also now the law to remove a face covering when requested by the police (it's supposed to be under certain conditions, but have fun arguing that with a jake). Actually love living in a police state. At least we repealed the law making cable ties illegal I guess.

God help you if you walk out of a store with a butter knife and forget your receipt.

Sounds funny, unless you are young looking and went to a store without ID to buy a pair of scissors. Happened to me, but I've managed to convince the staff that I'm old enough to cut the letters from a newspaper.
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